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Post by benmnwi on Dec 26, 2019 18:46:19 GMT -6
I've planted white spruce in se mn and nw wi and they both did great. It's the only spruce I would bother planting.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 26, 2019 19:14:30 GMT -6
I've planted white spruce in Dane and Juneau counties, WI and here. They've done well everywhere. As previously stated, they'll grow more slowly in very sandy soil.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 26, 2019 19:50:13 GMT -6
This will be on very good soil.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 26, 2019 19:57:17 GMT -6
My forester favors white spruce over Black Hills spruce since white is a native. He seemed to think they might be less susceptible to that disease that hits some spruce with age. I always wonder what is natural thinning and what is disease. Blue spruce are very susceptible. Most of my spruce are white. Deer don’t eat them on the sandbox. They are indeed. Even knowing that and knowing how slowwwwlllllyyyyyy they grow....I'm still going to plant 100 blue spruce plugs next spring. From what I've seen, the disease tends to hit them hardest around year 15-20 on up. If I'm still alive then, I won't much give a shit if they start losing their needles. It seems if you give them plenty of room and don't allow limbs from one tree to touch another, they aren't as likely to get the disease as badly.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 27, 2019 9:46:59 GMT -6
Norway Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce and one other tree (not sure) maybe Red Oak if I can find them is the plan...facing south I think it should work. 497 feet is the exact length. Acme Planimeter is a nice tool for that measurement. I could add one more row, we will see.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 27, 2019 12:05:22 GMT -6
Norway Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce and one other tree (not sure) maybe Red Oak if I can find them is the plan...facing south I think it should work. 497 feet is the exact length. Acme Planimeter is a nice tool for that measurement. I could add one more row, we will see. I'll be interested to hear about growth rates of the white vs. norway spruce.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 27, 2019 16:14:15 GMT -6
Norway Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce and one other tree (not sure) maybe Red Oak if I can find them is the plan...facing south I think it should work. 497 feet is the exact length. Acme Planimeter is a nice tool for that measurement. I could add one more row, we will see. I'll be interested to hear about growth rates of the white vs. norway spruce. It seems like Norway Spruce does better on heavy soils.
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 27, 2019 17:29:24 GMT -6
Norway Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce/White Spruce and one other tree (not sure) maybe Red Oak if I can find them is the plan...facing south I think it should work. 497 feet is the exact length. Acme Planimeter is a nice tool for that measurement. I could add one more row, we will see. I'll be interested to hear about growth rates of the white vs. norway spruce. They're neck and neck on my place. My road screen is 1 white and 1 norway. If I had to guess, the whites are ahead a little, but it's not by much.
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Post by batman on Dec 27, 2019 17:50:10 GMT -6
This will be on very good soil. Why not corn if its good soil. I Have deer that look for my truck when I hunt. You can only fool them for so long with the same routine. Spruce take a decade? to see benefit and then the local deer may figure out your scam?
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Post by smsmith on Dec 28, 2019 10:35:09 GMT -6
Corn requires annual $$$ inputs. Spruce are once and done for most people's lifetimes.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 28, 2019 10:38:51 GMT -6
This is a screen needs to be there forever if possible. It connects two areas and it’s close to the road as well. So I don’t want crop. Acorns I can live with (in 20 years—Red Oak)
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 28, 2019 13:59:54 GMT -6
Plant a late silage corn/clover strip between your spruces. Corn shields all, clover feeds corn, deer browse clover, corn sets no cob. Win win win.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 7, 2020 14:09:04 GMT -6
Frasier Fir an option for West Central MN? I see Itasca has them at discounted price?
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Post by smsmith on Jan 7, 2020 15:00:02 GMT -6
Frasiers make beautiful Christmas trees. As I recall, they prefer soil with decent moisture but good drainage. If I were planting them here, I'd put them on eastern or northern slopes to avoid the hottest part of the day. Deer around here eat Balsam firs like candy, so I imagine Frasiers would get the same attention.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 8, 2020 8:43:26 GMT -6
A local Christmas tree grower, told me Canaan Fir is a better option, due to faster growth, less winter burn and he said the deer hammer the Frasier Fir. I guess it would not hurt to try both?
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