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Post by sd51555 on Dec 12, 2017 10:13:14 GMT -6
Looking to get going on chainsaw work this weekend. My objectives are pretty straight forward; increase sunlight to the ground to create more browse and cover, increase quality away from stand locations, release desireables, cut back lesser species, and make some rabbit and grouse piles. Here’s what I deem as “save” species on my place: RO Dogwood, birch, all evergreens, bush willows, hazels, oak, ash, basswood. I’m seeking to kill nothing, simply cut, restart, and give the good a leg up. There are some odd ones in that list only because I don’t have many. The primary cut targets are tag alder, aspen, and a type of tree willow. Looking for some advice on how to attack this. Don’t know if I’ll get to burn, but I do plan to stack this stuff in places. Here’s some pics of what I’m dealing with. There are lots of tiny balsam firs and RO dogwoods I’m looking to get some sun to, as well as make some open space to do some fall plug planting.    |
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Post by Catscratch on Dec 12, 2017 10:30:40 GMT -6
I do something similar with Hedge, Elm, and Mulberry (these are preferred browse and re-sprout well). I'll hit the same area's every couple of yrs as the regrowth comes back multisprouted and bushy... but gets to tall. I cut some at ground level, some at waist level, and some at head height. This gives a 3d structure to the area. I don't remove anything I cut... because I'm lazy.
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Post by batman on Dec 12, 2017 12:56:36 GMT -6
Work a temp job for 2 weeks and then get a dozer or forestry head and create some edge in short order. In and out.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 12, 2017 18:16:45 GMT -6
Looking to get going on chainsaw work this weekend. My objectives are pretty straight forward; increase sunlight to the ground to create more browse and cover, increase quality away from stand locations, release desireables, cut back lesser species, and make some rabbit and grouse piles. Here’s what I deem as “save” species on my place: RO Dogwood, birch, all evergreens, bush willows, hazels, oak, ash, basswood. I’m seeking to kill nothing, simply cut, restart, and give the good a leg up. There are some odd ones in that list only because I don’t have many. The primary cut targets are tag alder, aspen, and a type of tree willow. Looking for some advice on how to attack this. Don’t know if I’ll get to burn, but I do plan to stack this stuff in places. Here’s some pics of what I’m dealing with. There are lots of tiny balsam firs and RO dogwoods I’m looking to get some sun to, as well as make some open space to do some fall plug planting. That center picture must be a DNR wildlife biologist, I mean wildlife ecologist, in disguise. Did he smell fishy? |
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 12, 2017 18:28:07 GMT -6
DNR staff are not allowed on my property. This man was not from the DNR. He did smell fishy.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 12, 2017 19:47:40 GMT -6
DNR staff are not allowed on my property. This man was not from the DNR. He did smell fishy. Smells fishy? Running for Governor from Dayton ‘s party? |
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 12, 2017 20:40:32 GMT -6
DNR staff are not allowed on my property. This man was not from the DNR. He did smell fishy. Smells fishy? Running for Governor from Dayton ‘s party? Anyone that identifies with a political party is also not allowed on my property, unless it's the "i don't give a shit what you do as long as you leave me alone" party. |
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 14, 2017 7:14:17 GMT -6
Work a temp job for 2 weeks and then get a dozer or forestry head and create some edge in short order. In and out. I gotta have the exercise component. A sales guy living in the city doesn’t get many meaningful opportunities to exercise. So, do I...? 1. Cut, leave lay, make openings thru 2. Cut, pile up, and keep 3. Cut, pile up, and burn later |
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Post by batman on Dec 14, 2017 7:44:52 GMT -6
Walk to the temp job for exercise. Way safer than a chain saw. Hell for the mileage you drive the equipment is actually cheaper. Much better results when heavey equipment is the tool vs hand labor.
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 14, 2017 7:52:14 GMT -6
Walk to the temp job for exercise. Way safer than a chain saw. Hell for the mileage you drive the equipment is actually cheaper. Much better results when heavey equipment is the tool vs hand labor. You can blow that common sense results oriented thinking right out your ass. |
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Post by Satchmo on Dec 14, 2017 7:53:42 GMT -6
I would cut and pile to help guide deer movement.*** Your probably going to get stump sprouting alder & willow, along with root sprouting aspen. None of that will do your balsams any good if your goal is to increase thermal.
***Well actually, I would rent a Bobcat & brush hog and get my exercise by walking around admiring my work with a beer in my hand, but that's just me. 👍
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 14, 2017 8:16:00 GMT -6
Work a temp job for 2 weeks and then get a dozer or forestry head and create some edge in short order. In and out. I gotta have the exercise component. A sales guy living in the city doesn’t get many meaningful opportunities to exercise. So, do I...? 1. Cut, leave lay, make openings thru 2. Cut, pile up, and keep 3. Cut, pile up, and burn later I would hinge those trees large enough in diameter to hinge and cut the rest and pile for wildlife benefit. Hinge the trees so deer can sit with the trees at their back while the predominate wind is at their back. I would add a 4th to-do and that is maintenance the area for the next xx years until your evergreens get established to the point they can compete with the regrowth of what you are cutting. |
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 14, 2017 9:05:08 GMT -6
Walk to the temp job for exercise. Way safer than a chain saw. Hell for the mileage you drive the equipment is actually cheaper. Much better results when heavey equipment is the tool vs hand labor. You can blow that common sense results oriented thinking right out your ass. You are beginning to sound like a Jack Pine Savage. Full steam ahead! Just waiting for the I told you so comment! |
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Post by jbird on Dec 14, 2017 15:58:24 GMT -6
All I will say is that if it's a large area - your going to have your hands full. I would start by cutting and hinging everything first, cut you a path thru and then decide if you want to mess with brush piles and burning or not. Achieve the primary objective first with getting sunlight to the ground and freeing up the more desirable trees.
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 16, 2017 6:57:20 GMT -6
SD,
You have all the above options. If you're not hunting this section I'm not sure you need to guide the deer anywhere with piles but, I'd create piles. Sunlight is a factor for getting things to grow faster. Hinging larger trees will provide more light but also browse. Take plenty before and after shots. Where is this section on your map?
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