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Post by mnfish on Nov 22, 2018 12:22:27 GMT -6
Grab a couple hand fulls of sago from a local lake. That waterway will be full of duck food in short order!
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Post by Catscratch on Nov 22, 2018 12:25:02 GMT -6
I've got no relevant advice, but I love the look of your place and what you're doing to it. I would be very temped to plant your water back to wild rice or something to get back into duck hunting. Sounds like it was once great for that and would probably be easy to get back. The bees are cool. The wife and I have wanted a hive or two for a long time but haven't tried it yet. The first thing I did after buying the place was to get a 3 year permit to plant wild rice. Planted 3 out of 4 years. (One year we got 12” of snow during gun season the day before I was going to pick up the rice, and the next week the river was frozen over. Unfortunately we have had periods of high water before it could get tall enough to survive. It’s always germinated and taken off growing well. One year it was so thick and reached standing grass stage..it was 2 feet high. Then the river rose 3 feet and submerged/ killed it all. I tried to renew the permit but the new guy in charge denied it saying “it could interfere with the public’ Use of the waterway”. Leslie George who initially gave me the permit was really excited about it. Funny thing about wild rice, you can plant it on your personal property in ponds. I asked why the DNR didn’t try to reestablish it in native waters like the Long Prairie and Sauk river. There are still a few spots it is still growing naturally in the Long Prairie river close to the Douglas/Todd Co. line. I was told the DNR would need to get the permission of the property owners to plant wild rice in the river along thier property. How f’d up is that?? Wow, regulations suck. I have no clue about the invasiveness of rice, but I'm going to research it to see if it's zone friendly for KS. I have a pond or two that I would love to grow some duck food in!
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Post by mnfish on Nov 22, 2018 12:32:11 GMT -6
Wild rice is a bitch! The conditions must be right for many years in a row. One bad year wipes it out dead. For u cat, i might look into Wells rice
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 22, 2018 13:03:36 GMT -6
Shhhhhh🤫. No, just the jon boat, electric troller and push pole. Spread it by hand broadcasting.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 22, 2018 14:39:29 GMT -6
I think water levels that vary considerably can eventually wipe it out. You probably need somewhat clear water to germinate?
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 22, 2018 15:45:36 GMT -6
the water here is very clean/clear, but I am fairly close to the headwaters and lake Carlos is pretty clear. Maybe the zebra mussels aren’t so bad.
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 22, 2018 15:51:04 GMT -6
Its the water levels that have been so whacky. Low in the spring and then rising during the summer. Next year I will try spreading some in the swampy wetland areas.
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 23, 2018 16:49:13 GMT -6
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 23, 2018 17:01:43 GMT -6
Do you leave any corn standing for deer and pheasants?
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Post by biglakebass on Nov 23, 2018 18:55:23 GMT -6
Grab a couple hand fulls of sago from a local lake. That waterway will be full of duck food in short order! Sadly that wont bring in ducks in loads magically. The duck days in mn are a mess.
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Post by batman on Nov 23, 2018 19:08:32 GMT -6
Sadly that wont bring in ducks in loads magically. The duck days in mn are a mess. Shuup Mark. The ducks are abundant. Clouds, cars and cucumbers reduce the harvest.
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 23, 2018 19:13:10 GMT -6
Yes, I left about 6-7 acres of corn. There are quite a few pheasants out there. I hope the clover/ dbltree mix will help as a nursery crop. Excellent pheasant cover there.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 23, 2018 19:20:35 GMT -6
Its the water levels that have been so whacky. Low in the spring and then rising during the summer. Next year I will try spreading some in the swampy wetland areas. High water levels later on can flood out a rice crop. No seed is produced. I had rice above my man made dykes for two years but it died out. I am not sure why.
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 23, 2018 19:37:59 GMT -6
Of the 180 acres I really only have about 70 huntable acres of high ground. I will be putting in about 10-12 acres of cover on the north side along the highway. I have a couple of questions; 1) what are your thoughts between switchgrass or a mix of NWSG’s for holding deer. (It is about 75-100 yards wide and about 1/2 mile long). The property across the road got 2 10-pointers, 2 8-pointers, and a 6 pointer. It’s pretty frustrating because there are no other crops of any type for over a mile. Everything is either CRP or state land. 2) How many total acres of food should I Plant? 3) Will a no-till drill work for WSNG’s or soybeans in the corn stubble left after combining?
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Post by wintomatic on Nov 23, 2018 19:54:14 GMT -6
I will probably rent the NRCS no-till drill in the spring. I could possibly trash mow it, but I would like to avoid tilling it and bringing up dormant weed seed since it has only been in crop for 1 year.
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