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Post by biglakebass on Jan 26, 2019 12:12:28 GMT -6
We tried willows in 2009. very very poor success rate. I had super high hopes it would just be a simple thing with high success. No idea what would have led to such poor results. We put sticks in low where it was wet and up several feet in hopes that with water level fluctuation something would grab hold. I bet of the hundreds of cuttings maybe under 20 actually are alive today.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 26, 2019 12:24:27 GMT -6
We tried willows in 2009. very very poor success rate. I had super high hopes it would just be a simple thing with high success. No idea what would have led to such poor results. We put sticks in low where it was wet and up several feet in hopes that with water level fluctuation something would grab hold. I bet of the hundreds of cuttings maybe under 20 actually are alive today. I seem to remember that discussion. Were some put in upside down?
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 26, 2019 12:25:55 GMT -6
We tried willows in 2009. very very poor success rate. I had super high hopes it would just be a simple thing with high success. No idea what would have led to such poor results. We put sticks in low where it was wet and up several feet in hopes that with water level fluctuation something would grab hold. I bet of the hundreds of cuttings maybe under 20 actually are alive today. I seem to remember that discussion. Were some put in upside down? I also wonder if earlier planting might be better.
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 26, 2019 12:26:42 GMT -6
Ha. Yep.
12 year old kids helping wasnt the best labor crew.
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 26, 2019 12:27:58 GMT -6
I seem to remember that discussion. Were some put in upside down? I also wonder if earlier planting might be better. Pre leaf out?
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Post by kooch on Jan 26, 2019 13:00:08 GMT -6
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Post by kooch on Jan 26, 2019 13:08:03 GMT -6
Re-read your post and realize now you did use stakes. The picture makes it look like you tried planting entire trees....
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 26, 2019 13:47:19 GMT -6
I also wonder if earlier planting might be better. Pre leaf out? I like Kooch’s link. I only used willow cuttings once and spent two years beforehand prepping the ground for weed control as there was lots of reed canary grass. I can remember my Dad speaking of planting the farmstead windbreak. They turned a single furrow, threw in farmstead willows limbs (probably crack or whitecrack willow) and pushed some dirt back over them. I wonder if a person would turn a single furrow along a wetland and just above the reed canary grass, then carefully push dormant willow cuttings into the bottom of the furrow. Plant the right side up. Don’t push dirt back but let the furrow protect from warm winds and also collect some rain. I would turn the furrow in the fall and grab a variety of local wild willows in early spring for cuttings. Could try it with HP or ROD.
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 26, 2019 17:27:53 GMT -6
We cut stakes out of all that stuff. None of it was planted in that stage.
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Post by smallchunk on Jan 27, 2019 9:55:47 GMT -6
Do you think you harvested the willows too late, BLB?
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Post by Freeborn on Jan 27, 2019 11:21:25 GMT -6
I like Kooch’s link. I only used willow cuttings once and spent two years beforehand prepping the ground for weed control as there was lots of reed canary grass. I can remember my Dad speaking of planting the farmstead windbreak. They turned a single furrow, threw in farmstead willows limbs (probably crack or whitecrack willow) and pushed some dirt back over them. I wonder if a person would turn a single furrow along a wetland and just above the reed canary grass, then carefully push dormant willow cuttings into the bottom of the furrow. Plant the right side up. Don’t push dirt back but let the furrow protect from warm winds and also collect some rain. I would turn the furrow in the fall and grab a variety of local wild willows in early spring for cuttings. Could try it with HP or ROD I noticed the link indicated to use stakes that are 1"-1-1/2" in diameter. These are larger than I would have expected and unless you have them on your place Will be expensive to purchase. Has anybody had luck using smaller diameter cuttings?
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 27, 2019 12:04:25 GMT -6
I like Kooch’s link. I only used willow cuttings once and spent two years beforehand prepping the ground for weed control as there was lots of reed canary grass. I can remember my Dad speaking of planting the farmstead windbreak. They turned a single furrow, threw in farmstead willows limbs (probably crack or whitecrack willow) and pushed some dirt back over them. I wonder if a person would turn a single furrow along a wetland and just above the reed canary grass, then carefully push dormant willow cuttings into the bottom of the furrow. Plant the right side up. Don’t push dirt back but let the furrow protect from warm winds and also collect some rain. I would turn the furrow in the fall and grab a variety of local wild willows in early spring for cuttings. Could try it with HP or ROD I noticed the link indicated to use stakes that are 1"-1-1/2" in diameter. These are larger than I would have expected and unless you have them on your place Will be expensive to purchase. Has anybody had luck using smaller diameter cuttings? Yes
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 27, 2019 13:32:59 GMT -6
Do you think you harvested the willows too late, BLB? I dont think so. We checked them later in the year and a lot had budded out. Thats where i found some planted upside down and sprouted. That being said maybe it was too late to get roots far enough to live through winter.
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