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Post by Freeborn on Feb 23, 2017 10:35:02 GMT -6
Just to get this out there. I hate government and all politicians, regardless of party. I am a "live and let live" type of person. Don't like abortions? Then don't have one. Don't like sucking dicks? Then don't suck them. Don't like welfare? Then take it away from the farmers at the same time you take it away from the black people. I dislike hypocrisy and I feel very strongly that all politicians are out to make backroom deals to line their pockets, not create policy that "Makes America Great". I believe with every fiber of my being that politicians love to keep us arguing about fetuses, gay stuff, bathrooms, etc., so they can continue, Dems and Reps alike, to steal our money while we argue. It makes very little difference to me if I have less money in my pocket because a Democrat gave it to a black, gay immigrant or because a republican broke my union, and lets every major corporation monopolize industries and collude to fix prices. Either way Donald Trump isn't going to do a damn thing to make my life better, just as Hillary wouldn't have. However, I do believe that Trump is a narcissistic, barely literate moron that could start a nuclear war with Putin after he releases the pee-pee tapes. theweek.com/articles/681360/president-trump-pitiless-warmongerAnd if you'd actually looked through the links I provided you'd be extremely concerned with Trump's ties to Russia. Russia is bad, Russia has always been bad. Russia does bad things. Very Bad things. The worst things. And our president and his people are way too cozy with them. I'm much more of a Libertarian myself but I have commented more about the left as they are the primary architect of the current situation in the US. That does not mean I like Republicans but I see them as far less aggressive and far less dangerous then Democrats.
I looked at your links and as someone who does not like either party why would you post sources that are directly out of the left wing bastion of liberal journalism? The video; all of this is low on substance and high on Innuendo: the DNC hacking from whomever/Russia had little impact on the election and did not cause Hillary to lose the election, Flynn being an idiot and not realizing he was being taped by the intelligence department does mean there is a Russian conspiracy and I won't comment on the last one as it is Idiotic. Like I said, no substance and allot less than the taped conversation of Obama unilaterally telling Putin he could offer more once he was elected.
Your link above quotes the Huffington post, I pasted the first paragraph below. Trump is a war monger because in his first 30 days he does not take action to reverse an Obama policy?? This all looks like media hype, creation of news and an effort to create a narrative to sell. One thing I dislike as much as politicians is the media, people forget they are for profit corporation too and they create news because its good business.
Until Trump's administration does something proactively aggressive towards another nation I don't see someone who wants war. Trump will most likely make every effort to use surrogates like China to convince North Korea rather than have the U.S. be seen as the aggressor.
"As Jessica Schulberg and Ryan Grim report in The Huffington Post, not only has he not reversed President Obama's disastrous enabling of Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen, he shows every sign of pushing for further escalation — this time in reportedly allowing the Saudis to bomb the port of Al Hudaydah, one of the few remaining routes for humanitarian supplies to reach the country's most desperate areas. Yemen is already suffering one of the world's worst humanitarian emergencies, and this could easily cause a full-blown famine.
President Trump is every bit the warmonger his critics feared."
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Post by mclovin on Feb 23, 2017 10:59:53 GMT -6
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 23, 2017 11:13:03 GMT -6
Yep take all the subsidies away from everyone. All 2,000 of them. Of course there is no way anyone can or will. I would love to see the farmers without any subsidies. But since it makes up only a few percent of a farmers income. They should start with the 100% subsidized teachers first, then lets go to all that get subsidized flood insurance for there homes, then lets work on the federally subsidized crop insurance the farmers get charged with. But in reality the crop insurance company gets the cash and the farmers get labeled with it. Now start working on a. Plan for the other 1997 subsidies out there. Of course it will never happen!
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 23, 2017 11:22:44 GMT -6
I think the billions we spend subsidized Stafford loans would be a good place to start cutting out as well. Let's fuck all those kids trying to go to college. Subsidized financing of loans for young people rates right with those fucking farmers doesn't it? But not as bad as teachers. They are the worst.....lol.
Of course I am kidding. just how stupid it all the ending subsidies is. Lol
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Post by wiscwhip on Feb 23, 2017 11:46:21 GMT -6
Trump isn't blowing shit up, it's bad for business. After all, he is the consummate businessman like everyone says, right? No way is he starting shit with anyone, he has too much to lose, he has business holdings just about everywhere that matters, so it would cost him money directly. Unless of course he found a business insurer that will cover Acts of War(never happen).........
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Post by Reagan on Feb 24, 2017 6:12:11 GMT -6
Cut out Stafford loans and college price would go down. It is supply and demand.
We have an over supply of money available so the price of college keeps going up. Take away that supply and watch how fast the price of college drops.
As for the original topic. Maybe Trump is spending more for travel. Maybe not. I don't take any liberal site's claims as being fact.
If Trump cut out several billion in wasted government spending, I won't give a shit if he goes to Florida every week. It would be a net reduction in government spending.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 24, 2017 7:36:08 GMT -6
The thing is what subsidies do you cut out? The gov has done there best to spread them around so everyone gets to take part in them whether the know it or not, or want them or not. Do we cut the heavily subsidized Medicare? Student loans? Crop insurance? Home loans? Teachers? Flood insurance? Law enforcement? How do you cut from one and not the other 2000 subsidies after they have been in place for so long!
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Post by smsmith on Feb 24, 2017 7:38:58 GMT -6
Home owners all get a "subsidy" by being able to deduct mortgage interest.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 24, 2017 8:00:23 GMT -6
Yep and home stead credits over the years. Earned income credits, may be closer to 3000 different subsidies for all I know! We live in a gov controlled subsidized America. Just the way it is!
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Post by Freeborn on Feb 24, 2017 8:35:05 GMT -6
Yep and home stead credits over the years. Earned income credits, may be closer to 3000 different subsidies for all I know! We live in a gov controlled subsidized America. Just the way it is! That's why the argument the democrats use (how to split the pie and who gets what) does not work. For economics its not how you split the pie its how you make the pie bigger. One way to make the current situation better without harsh cuts is to grow the economy so there is more after government money for those willing to work for it. If you grow the economy at 3.5-4+%, add some reasonable inflation and common sense spending cuts you will kick start this country back towards financial health.
It will be interesting to see how the Dems respond to the economics Trump is trying as after 8 years of 1.5% GNP and about 10 trillion in debt the public no longer trusts the lefts economics. Its to bad we got Obama (no experience) , Bill new how the country ran and did a good job in my opinion and I do think Hillary would of been way better than Obama.
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Post by wildfire123 on Feb 24, 2017 9:09:28 GMT -6
Have your house paid for is an easy way to end deducting interest paid on taxes! If you continually spend more than you make, sooner or later you will really find reality. spending what you need, vs spending what you want is reality.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 24, 2017 9:23:24 GMT -6
Have your house paid for is an easy way to end deducting interest paid on taxes! If you continually spend more than you make, sooner or later you will really find reality. spending what you need, vs spending what you want is reality. Some would say having your house paid for when interest is available below 3% is stupid idea! |
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Post by Bwoods11 on Feb 24, 2017 9:32:07 GMT -6
Crop insurance is a necessary subsidy. What farmer would be able to afford to plant 320, 640,1000 acres of corn (input costs) and just risk that he could lose it all with a drought, flood, or hail? Make the farmer pay all the premium cost??... the numbers do not work, and insurance companies are not into 100% risk either, it is unfortunately the cost we pay to have food on the table.
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Post by westbranch on Feb 24, 2017 9:36:55 GMT -6
Have your house paid for is an easy way to end deducting interest paid on taxes! If you continually spend more than you make, sooner or later you will really find reality. spending what you need, vs spending what you want is reality. Some would say having your house paid for when interest is available below 3% is stupid idea! I agree with that, but not as stupid as buying a more expensive house to get a tax deduction. |
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 24, 2017 9:44:47 GMT -6
Crop insurance is a necessary subsidy. What farmer would be able to afford to plant 320, 640,1000 acres of corn (input costs) and just risk that he could lose it all with a drought, flood, or hail? Make the farmer pay all the premium cost??... the numbers do not work, and insurance companies are not into 100% risk either, it is unfortunately the cost we pay to have food on the table. The deal with crop insurance and subsidies is this. If you borrow from a bank for crop inputs, they require you to have crop insurance or you get no money. And there is only federally subsidized crop insurance, so you have no choice but to be subsidized. To get all the crop insurance paperwork you sign up at the FSA office. It's a forced situation most don't like. Me included! And if you are planting knowing your planting costs are $3 a bushel and the current cash price is $3 in the fall, a bank would be nuts not to require you to have insurance. In my area, most of the dollar amount printed on the EWG website is the crop insurance subsidies payed directly from the gov, to the crop insurance company for overpriced insurance. It is a great scam that we are forced to take part in. Get labeled as taking in huge money, money we never see but pay taxes on! Lol |
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