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Post by smsmith on Jun 13, 2019 9:22:42 GMT -6
Black oaks grow like weeds in sandy, low ph central WI
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jun 13, 2019 9:58:08 GMT -6
In Central Iowa ...Shingle Oak is basically invasive, but they make good cover as they are kind of like a shrub. Mostly Bur Oak in Western Iowa in the hills, need to plant a few Swamp White Oaks as the neighbors say they have some.
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 13, 2019 11:09:08 GMT -6
There are so many oaks in the areas that I hunt that I don't think a planted oak will ever produce quickly enough to compete with the big trees. Most of our big producers here are the 150 year old burr oaks that can blanket the ground with acorns some years. At my cabin there are some bur oaks, but northern red oaks are more common there and can produce some impressive crops as well. I've planted a bunch of acorns to add variety to my tree rows up there, but that was more for variety than food.
There's a shortage of young oaks in SE MN in my area, so recently I've been cutting competition around promising young oaks that are 2-6" in diameter. That seems to be a quicker path to increasing acorn production in my area so I've been going that route recently.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 13, 2019 17:15:55 GMT -6
My driveway is built up about 4 feet. On the north side I have some decent bur and pin oak regrowth and not a single oak on the south facing exposed side. I think it is a moisture thing on lighter soil and we need certain years/ conditions to get them started from acorns.
Most of our good land is in crop production or a few acres in apple trees on my place.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 13, 2019 18:41:17 GMT -6
I've noticed shitloads of burr oak seedlings popping up in all of my foodplots this spring. Last year's crop of acorns was the largest I've ever seen.
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Post by wklman on Jun 13, 2019 18:53:22 GMT -6
I've got a mix of red and bur oak on my place. They seem to go good once they get above browse level.
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 13, 2019 20:47:39 GMT -6
i took pics of the relatively young bur oaks that are rare in my area of se mn. Lots of old ones here, but very few young ones. They were in my food plot expansion area, but they got a free pass. They are nice young trees in a good area to kill deer so I left them, but I don't think they will ever compete with the giant oaks nearby.
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 13, 2019 20:51:16 GMT -6
I've noticed shitloads of burr oak seedlings popping up in all of my foodplots this spring. Last year's crop of acorns was the largest I've ever seen. I saw the same thing in my plots this spring. I'm hoping a few are sprouting under brush piles that will give them natural tree guard so they make it. But the deer sure like young oaks.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 14, 2019 3:31:37 GMT -6
I've got a mix of red and bur oak on my place. They seem to go good once they get above browse level. I am seeing some oak regeneration back in the woods. Some of them need to be liberated from red cedar and buckthorn. And they need the brush piled around them. Bloods had posted about planted oaks and I gave up planting them many years ago.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 4, 2019 8:15:49 GMT -6
With all the rain the young oaks are taking off!!
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Post by nhmountains on Jul 4, 2019 9:13:18 GMT -6
I've got a mix of red and bur oak on my place. They seem to go good once they get above browse level. I am seeing some oak regeneration back in the woods. Some of them need to be liberated from red cedar and buckthorn. And they need the brush piled around them. Bloods had posted about planted oaks and I gave up planting them many years ago. You’re retired now so no excuse to get those oaks liberated if they’re above 6’.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 4, 2019 10:17:28 GMT -6
Did a quick check on Oaks... Looks like acorn crop will be good.
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Post by honker on Jul 4, 2019 15:11:36 GMT -6
I've got a mix of red and bur oak on my place. They seem to go good once they get above browse level. I am seeing some oak regeneration back in the woods. Some of them need to be liberated from red cedar and buckthorn. And they need the brush piled around them. Bloods had posted about planted oaks and I gave up planting them many years ago. I'm starting to see quite a few oaks around my place pushing out above the Hazelnut shrub clumps in the 6' plus range, primarily bur and swamp white. I was wondering if it was better to leave the competition around them still for protection or once they get that tall are they okay on their own? It also has me thinking I should be bury some acorns in the middle of hazelnut clumps this fall to help out nature a bit.
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Post by nhmountains on Jul 4, 2019 15:15:56 GMT -6
I am seeing some oak regeneration back in the woods. Some of them need to be liberated from red cedar and buckthorn. And they need the brush piled around them. Bloods had posted about planted oaks and I gave up planting them many years ago. I'm starting to see quite a few oaks around my place pushing out above the Hazelnut shrub clumps in the 6' plus range, primarily bur and swamp white. I was wondering if it was better to leave the competition around them still for protection or once they get that tall are they okay on their own? It also has me thinking I should be bury some acorns in the middle of hazelnut clumps this fall to help out nature a bit. I’d say 6’ is ok but, if you mark them and hit them early next spring they may be safer from winter browse. Then they’ll take off next spring. I like your idea of planting nuts within the hazelnut clumps.
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Post by honker on Jul 4, 2019 15:22:13 GMT -6
I'm starting to see quite a few oaks around my place pushing out above the Hazelnut shrub clumps in the 6' plus range, primarily bur and swamp white. I was wondering if it was better to leave the competition around them still for protection or once they get that tall are they okay on their own? It also has me thinking I should be bury some acorns in the middle of hazelnut clumps this fall to help out nature a bit. I’d say 6’ is ok but, if you mark them and hit them early next spring they may be safer from winter browse. Then they’ll take off next spring. I like your idea of planting nuts within the hazelnut clumps. I like that idea of letting them go until next spring. Three of them were right along the main trail and I hadn't seen them there until this past spring. Perfect spots for the future though.
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