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Post by terrifictom on Jul 29, 2019 7:07:34 GMT -6
I have always spread fertilizer, disced, cultipacked, broadcast seed and cultipacked my brassica plots. Thinking of just broadcasting this year. I sprayed several weeks ago and have a very good kill on the plots. What do you guys do? Do you still put radish in mix? What about fertilizer, I always used Urea. Do I need to use different type of nitrogen? My plan was to broadcast fertilizer, broadcast brassica seed and then run cultipacker over it. Will this work or should I do it the way I have always done it?
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Post by batman on Jul 29, 2019 7:12:53 GMT -6
I have always spread fertilizer, disced, cultipacked, broadcast seed and cultipacked my brassica plots. Thinking of just broadcasting this year. I sprayed several weeks ago and have a very good kill on the plots. What do you guys do? Do you still put radish in mix? What about fertilizer, I always used Urea. Do I need to use different type of nitrogen? My plan was to broadcast fertilizer, broadcast brassica seed and then run cultipacker over it. Will this work or should I do it the way I have always done it? Ime You will get much better results the old way.
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Post by badbrad on Jul 29, 2019 7:31:21 GMT -6
I still prefer tillage rather than the throw over the top stuff and hope. Are you looking to save time or is there another reason you want to change it up? I fertilize, disc, fence drag harrow (to break up the clumps for small seeds), broadcast seed, pack.
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Post by smsmith on Jul 29, 2019 7:32:33 GMT -6
If you have good soil you can get great plots with spray and roll/pack. If you have sand...not so much.
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Post by badbrad on Jul 29, 2019 7:33:25 GMT -6
If you have good soil you can get great plots with spray and roll/pack. If you have sand...not so much. And Tom has basically perfect soil.
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Post by badbrad on Jul 29, 2019 7:36:44 GMT -6
Also to answer your question about Radish. I'm starting to get away from GHR. Sure they like the tops early but the tubers just turn into mush by me and it seems when I need them they are no good at deer eating them. I would rather have more PTT bulbs. Yes I know the GHR is good for breaking up the soil but I haven't noticed a difference leaving the GHR out. JMHO
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Post by smsmith on Jul 29, 2019 7:52:43 GMT -6
I did a spray and pack plot using a brassica mix about 10 days ago. Radish were some of the first seeds to germinate. I don't usually fertilize my plots. When I do, I time it before an imminent rain...as in the radar shows plenty of yellow and orange not far away.
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Post by badgerfowl on Jul 29, 2019 7:54:34 GMT -6
Deer hammer the radish by us. I continue the spray, throw, and walk away method. It's worked so far. Plots always do better with fertilizer. Like Stu said, radish pop up the quickest.
Now that we have a little tractor at the new place, that may change next year. I just fertilized, broadcast, and sprayed a new plot there. Got 0.5" last night. Time will tell if it works as good there as it does at the old place. It's not flat anymore but there was really thick thatch so I'm hoping that will hold the seed well enough.
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Post by snowracerh on Jul 29, 2019 7:55:23 GMT -6
Spray, spread and hope has been the only way I've put in plots and has worked better than i expected. Was going to buy some atv equipment but the results were good enough without it that Im not going to bother.
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Post by terrifictom on Jul 29, 2019 8:11:19 GMT -6
I still prefer tillage rather than the throw over the top stuff and hope. Are you looking to save time or is there another reason you want to change it up? I fertilize, disc, fence drag harrow (to break up the clumps for small seeds), broadcast seed, pack. A couple reasons, may not have any help and doing two plots at one time is getting to be too much by myself. Also having to be put under 2 times in a couple weeks has knocked the shit out of me, which was explained to me before they put me out Friday afternoon. Felt like a Zombie over the weekend. They tell me by Wednesday I should be feeling better.
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Post by terrifictom on Jul 29, 2019 8:13:01 GMT -6
If you have good soil you can get great plots with spray and roll/pack. If you have sand...not so much. Antigo Loam
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Post by Catscratch on Jul 29, 2019 9:06:35 GMT -6
I've had some great brassica plots with spray n pray. Must be done with rain like mentioned above, and I do not have sandy soil. Radish tops are the only brassica I can get deer to eat. It does me no good to have turnip or radish tubers in the ground late season, might as well be rocks sitting out there as far as the deer are concerned as they aren't eating either one.
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Post by badbrad on Jul 29, 2019 9:16:23 GMT -6
I've had some great brassica plots with spray n pray. Must be done with rain like mentioned above, and I do not have sandy soil. Radish tops are the only brassica I can get deer to eat. It does me no good to have turnip or radish tubers in the ground late season, might as well be rocks sitting out there as far as the deer are concerned as they aren't eating either one. What are the deer eating instead?
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Post by Catscratch on Jul 29, 2019 10:07:59 GMT -6
I've had some great brassica plots with spray n pray. Must be done with rain like mentioned above, and I do not have sandy soil. Radish tops are the only brassica I can get deer to eat. It does me no good to have turnip or radish tubers in the ground late season, might as well be rocks sitting out there as far as the deer are concerned as they aren't eating either one. What are the deer eating instead? In my plots they eat wheat and clover mostly, they also spend a lot of time in cut beans at that time of year. I never see deer roaming that aren't grazing on native stuff as they tinker along, my assumption is native forbs and tree leafs. I find very little evidence of browse on twigs here.
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Post by badbrad on Jul 29, 2019 10:14:01 GMT -6
What are the deer eating instead? In my plots they eat wheat and clover mostly, they also spend a lot of time in cut beans at that time of year. I never see deer roaming that aren't grazing on native stuff as they tinker along, my assumption is native forbs and tree leafs. I find very little evidence of browse on twigs here. Is your clover still green in late season ? I can see the beans being better than brassicas for sure. Maybe you don't get that hard Frost to turn your bulbs sweet like we do here.
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