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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2023 9:49:52 GMT -6
You can't order from this place if you're in the U.S., but there's some decent info on cold hardy nuts and fruits. They've got a bunch of the Russian pear varieties. Seems many of those varieties are slowly trickling into the U.S. www.prairiehardynursery.ca/collections/allI don’t have the pears but my Boris should bloom one of the next few years. I also need to check the tags, but I have a Lee out there.
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Post by smsmith on May 9, 2023 18:41:33 GMT -6
You can't order from this place if you're in the U.S., but there's some decent info on cold hardy nuts and fruits. They've got a bunch of the Russian pear varieties. Seems many of those varieties are slowly trickling into the U.S. www.prairiehardynursery.ca/collections/allI don’t have the pears but my Boris should bloom one of the next few years. I also need to check the tags, but I have a Lee out there. There's so many varieties out there that I'd like to add, but a guy has to say "enough" at some point....right? I planted 10 wild apple plugs this year. If they all grow and survive, that'd be 10 more varieties I could graft next year...
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Post by Sandbur on May 10, 2023 4:56:08 GMT -6
I don’t have the pears but my Boris should bloom one of the next few years. I also need to check the tags, but I have a Lee out there. There's so many varieties out there that I'd like to add, but a guy has to say "enough" at some point....right? I planted 10 wild apple plugs this year. If they all grow and survive, that'd be 10 more varieties I could graft next year... I think it is Lee 37 that I have. I am trying hard say ‘enough’ at my age, as I doubt I have the years left to see fruit, or the energy to take care of more trees.
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Post by smsmith on May 10, 2023 7:05:31 GMT -6
There's so many varieties out there that I'd like to add, but a guy has to say "enough" at some point....right? I planted 10 wild apple plugs this year. If they all grow and survive, that'd be 10 more varieties I could graft next year... I think it is Lee 37 that I have. I am trying hard say ‘enough’ at my age, as I doubt I have the years left to see fruit, or the energy to take care of more trees. I think I'm pretty close to being done adding any more varieties. I've got plenty, and nobody but me gives a shit about them anyway. As I find new wild trees to top work I'll do so with scions from the trees I have.
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Post by Sandbur on Sept 21, 2023 11:39:59 GMT -6
Has anyone tried Intensity?
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Post by smsmith on Nov 25, 2023 19:49:53 GMT -6
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Post by benmnwi on Nov 25, 2023 22:28:10 GMT -6
Interesting article. I didn’t know that possible unintentional crossing the Chinese apples with wild European crabapples had that impact.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 26, 2023 7:35:16 GMT -6
Interesting link. I read something similar, somewhere else.
Looking at a much shorter time frame, M. Ioensis has contributed to the genome on Stu and my places, I suspect, and Ben’s as well.
Then there is the southern crab and is there a native west coast crab?
I would also like to see how Kazak genetics crossed the Pacific with Russia bringing apples to Alaska and probably the west coast. Chinese could also have spread apples across the Pacific.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 26, 2023 8:48:13 GMT -6
Interesting link. I read something similar, somewhere else. Looking at a much shorter time frame, M. Ioensis has contributed to the genome on Stu and my places, I suspect, and Ben’s as well. Then there is the southern crab and is there a native west coast crab?I would also like to see how Kazak genetics crossed the Pacific with Russia bringing apples to Alaska and probably the west coast. Chinese could also have spread apples across the Pacific. malus angustifolia and malus fusca I believe I recall reading that angustifolia, fusca, coronaria, and ioensis are the only apples/crabs/whatever truly native to the U.S.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 20, 2023 18:54:10 GMT -6
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 20, 2023 18:58:02 GMT -6
That’s an impressive list coming from u of mn.
Interesting to see the parents listed are different than I’ve read previously.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 20, 2023 19:33:09 GMT -6
That’s an impressive list coming from u of mn. Interesting to see the parents listed are different than I’ve read previously. I looked for a scion of Malinda for a few years because it was reportedly one of the parents of a great number of UMN cultivars. It looks like it is a parent of many fewer that previously reported. I did find and graft Malinda last year.
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 28, 2024 9:57:56 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Feb 28, 2024 10:08:08 GMT -6
^^^there are a huge number of apples and pears still being grown today that were simply chance seedlings.
I think the push to only grow grafted apples and pears came at least partly from the folks selling those grafted trees.
I have 4 wild/seedling apples growing here. All of them are worth eating fresh. They aren't the next Honeycrisp or anything overwhelmingly unique, but they also aren't spitters. The roadside apple we found last fall (and was cut down) was every bit as good as most grocery store apples I've eaten. The roadside apple we found a couple falls ago is also very good for fresh eating. The only full sized wild apple growing locally I know of that isn't worth a shit for eating is on my north neighbor's place.
6 of 7 wild/seedling apples (not crabs) I know of from this area are worth growing for fresh eating and/or sweet cider. Doesn't seem like the worst odds to me.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 25, 2024 8:19:58 GMT -6
I ran across a link where you could sort apples on the Orange Pippen site for self fertile or partially so and also for hardiness zones. Zones 3-4 showed several varieties that I have. Dolgo, Kerr , Northland, st Edmunds Russet, golden Hornet, Geneva Crab, and a few others. The link did say that Northland is from a dolgo cross.
Does anyone have Roberts Crab?
This information might be of value if a person was planting only one apple tree.
When I was a kid, the only apple tree I knew of was a dolgo that fruited. I don’t remember any flowering crabs in northern Minnesota at that time either. No wild crabs.
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