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Post by Sandbur on Oct 5, 2019 7:42:19 GMT -6
I agree Stu. He’s marketed it well. My NH Red Deer Crab had been flawless for 9 years. No disease signs and heavy fruit bearing. This year it had its first light crop and showed signs of scab. I think. We had heavy rains the week that it was blooming. Bees weren’t working. The early apples fared well. Every tree here got hit withbscab hard last year except this one and another. Those two trees showed scab signs this year. The others didn’t so I’m not sure what’s up but I’d match that tree with any deer apple for now. I’ve got plenty of good looking scion wood this year too. I'd like to try grafting that bad boy again  Make that two of us. |
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 5, 2019 7:43:32 GMT -6
I have two frostbite and they are crisp, juicy and kind of plain tasting. I believe they are a good base cider apple that you would want to add other apples to create the cider taste you desire. My trees are disease free with a little CAR but I have almost no red cedar by me. As a deer tree I think they are very good as the apples are smaller in size and the tree produces very good crops. That's the first time I've heard anyone say they're plain tasting. I wouldn’t say plain tasting for my pallet. Just not sure if I like them. |
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Post by smsmith on Oct 5, 2019 7:46:42 GMT -6
That's the first time I've heard anyone say they're plain tasting. I wouldn’t say plain tasting for my pallet. Just not sure if I like them. Yep, I can understand that. I'd say they are odd tasting, but sometimes odd is good I imagine the soil they're grown in impacts how they taste as well. Maybe mine here won't taste the same as the fruit I had at your place. |
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Post by Freeborn on Oct 5, 2019 8:36:06 GMT -6
That's the first time I've heard anyone say they're plain tasting. I wouldn’t say plain tasting for my pallet. Just not sure if I like them. Maybe not the best choice of words but they don't have the complexity or layer of tastes like a Honeycrisp for example. |
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Post by smsmith on Oct 5, 2019 8:42:20 GMT -6
I wouldn’t say plain tasting for my pallet. Just not sure if I like them. Maybe not the best choice of words but they don't have the complexity or layer of tastes like a Honeycrisp for example. Heh, I guess that's what makes the world a great place. Honeycrisp to my taste buds are a one trick pony. No real "taste" at all, just sweet. I finally broke down and bought a Honeycrisp tree this fall, mainly for my wife and the kids. They all like them a lot more than I do. |
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Post by smsmith on Oct 5, 2019 11:51:34 GMT -6
Another apple in the MN 447 (Frostbite) lineage that is really tasty is Keepsake (one of the parents of Honeycrisp). Keepsake has almost the same crunch and juiciness of H.C., but to my palate much more flavor. The only problem is that Keepsake seems to be a really slow and shy bearer.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 5, 2019 12:51:57 GMT -6
Nursery owner in Parkers Prairie brags up Fireside big time! My friend has one on his 30 acres in Pope County. He said it’s his best tree by far. He is planting more.
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Post by nhmountains on Oct 5, 2019 22:45:55 GMT -6
Another apple in the MN 447 (Frostbite) lineage that is really tasty is Keepsake (one of the parents of Honeycrisp). Keepsake has almost the same crunch and juiciness of H.C., but to my palate much more flavor. The only problem is that Keepsake seems to be a really slow and shy bearer. I had some the last two years and none this year. I figured it would keep getting more and more after it started bearing. Hopefully more next year. Most trees were loaded. |
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Post by nhmountains on Oct 5, 2019 22:52:32 GMT -6
I'd like to try grafting that bad boy again Make that two of us. I took a look at that tree tonight as I was standing on the deck and the sun was hitting it. It’s got a lot more red apples hanging on it than I’d thought so the deer should have some December apples here. I’ll be better on getting the scions waxed this year. I think that’s key for having good scion wood to top work trees as well as bench graft. I have two more 45-50’ balsam to take down on the south side of that tree this winter ( or sooner if I get my deer). Once that’s done it should help that tree even more. |
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Post by benmnwi on Oct 6, 2019 19:59:28 GMT -6
Yes, I'm going to use red splendor as my rootstock this year. Those grow great for me and are very tough trees. Their big roots help give me grafting success as well. I'm not cut out to graft on b118 I just checked my local NRCS office and I can buy Red Splendor from them but I can't pick them up until Early May. When did you get your seedlings, was it earlier or did you graft in May? That's when mine arrive. You can graft then and do great. Just keep the scion cool. |
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Post by nhmountains on Oct 6, 2019 20:07:25 GMT -6
I just checked my local NRCS office and I can buy Red Splendor from them but I can't pick them up until Early May. When did you get your seedlings, was it earlier or did you graft in May? That's when mine arrive. You can graft then and do great. Just keep the scion cool. Dip your scions right after cutting them in a beeswax paraffin wax mixture to make them last longer. |
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Post by benmnwi on Oct 6, 2019 20:10:01 GMT -6
That's when mine arrive. You can graft then and do great. Just keep the scion cool. Dip your scions right after cutting them in a beeswax paraffin wax mixture to make them last longer. Good point- I dip my scion ends in beeswax as soon as I cut them or they arrive. |
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 14, 2019 9:35:30 GMT -6
What apple tree or trees... produces the most volume? The most apples?
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Post by mnaaron on Oct 14, 2019 9:44:16 GMT -6
What apple tree or trees... produces the most volume? The most apples? If I was going to make time to plant one or two varieties what would you guys recommend? Property mostly rifle hunters except for me the lone bowhunter. |
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Post by smsmith on Oct 14, 2019 9:51:33 GMT -6
What apple tree or trees... produces the most volume? The most apples? That will almost certainly vary from site to site and it will also vary from manager to manager. Pruning/training will directly impact how much fruit a tree produces. So will annual/bi-annual bearing traits. Thinning can help trees produce more consistently from year to year. Nice non-answer...huh?  |
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