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Post by batman on Nov 28, 2019 9:28:53 GMT -6
There is no doubt that 8' woven wire was the best land management decision ive made to date. TurkeyTown will be, when finished, a private 60 acre island. No more trespassers or no roaming dogs. No more worries about outside influences messing with my goals. Guns being sighted in 1 day before gun season, 4 wheelers in the middle of the night, fireworks, ect ect, are non impactful. The end result has been...I am ejoying my property to the fullest. Creating and enjoying my goals. All the enjoyment with zero of the frustrations I use to deal with! My family unanimously voted for a 40 of fence over a full section of state managed land. I know very few who have tried it that did not see a light bulb come on.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 28, 2019 9:32:00 GMT -6
Fresh alfalfa/clover helped get a nice buck for my son. Upgrading from an average hunting farm to a really good hunting farm with more acres was the best thing I did all year.
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Post by Bob on Nov 28, 2019 9:52:24 GMT -6
I 100% agree. I still wanna keep moving things ahead, but I highly scrutinize inputs and outputs. That's why my approach to native habitat and plots is about as low intervention as you can get, short of doing nothing at all. There is a lot to staying out. I have ventured in much less the past couple years, and we're starting to see horns. There have been more bucks seen here the past two years than I saw in the previous 5 at the other property. Bob, You and SD should take a walk after season and check out the state land. If you’re willing to walk a mile (most hunters aren’t) there may be some unpressured good spots in there. You will probably find that deer are traveling from there to your food plots. We talked about that over coffee this morning. I told him I could run ahead and nab us a couple grouse for the campfire this weekend. It's on the list, not sure if we'll get to it this weekend. The chainsaw has been brought inside to warm and we've gotta switch out chains. He's gonna go out and do some marking and surveying this morning, and then get to cutting this afternoon. We also need to walk the road spruces and pull the lodging grasses off them so they don't get laid down over winter. They're really starting to look good!
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 28, 2019 9:54:02 GMT -6
I've been a stay out hunter for a long time. No trail cams where I hunt, no stands (I hunted from the ground exclusively this season), no habitat work, etc. Works well for me. My bean plot with electric fence was great until about 3 weeks ago. Deer still spend some time in it but they're spending more time in the wheat/clover plots now. Quail loved this plot but I haven't seen them for a couple of weeks either. Too small and nothing left. Deer are the pumpkins this yrs. We dumped them out in a plot once they started to get soft and the deer have been hammering them. Yeah! You considering upping the numbers next year? Not many plot options can pump out 10-20 tons of food per acre!!
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 28, 2019 9:55:23 GMT -6
Accidentally spilling a few bags of milorganite along my corner/line where the aholes to the west hunt may have saved a deer or three. They sat my line like always, but nothing came through that area this year. May have been coincidence, may have been the milorganite. I'll be accidentally spilling some more next year. I have heard of wolf or coyote urine being used. Check out trapper supply sites.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 28, 2019 9:58:38 GMT -6
Plant trees early/often. The original plan and plantings I implemented about 7 years ago are starting to bare fruit. Crabapple and evergreen plantings in particular. Corn and beans are a fantastic draw with beans out drawing corn through Minnesota's rifle season. Corn provides cover for bean field and gives deer an edge to move in and out of cover. Continue to plant trees every year, having evergreens on hand motivates you to look for and fill those holes in your plantings. With time even plugs start to grow. On my property hunt the travel corridors leading to where the does are and you will see bucks moving. Hunting over a food plot is problematic as entrance and exit is impossible. Ozonics works I need to engineer a way deer can reach apples that fall off trees but still keep the tree protected from browse. The Kasco no-till drill does not do well with trash and there is no easy way around it. I still need a hunting season shower. So you haven’t taken a shower since rifle season opened?? You might be a JPS!
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 28, 2019 10:01:25 GMT -6
Bob, You and SD should take a walk after season and check out the state land. If you’re willing to walk a mile (most hunters aren’t) there may be some unpressured good spots in there. You will probably find that deer are traveling from there to your food plots. We talked about that over coffee this morning. I told him I could run ahead and nab us a couple grouse for the campfire this weekend. It's on the list, not sure if we'll get to it this weekend. The chainsaw has been brought inside to warm and we've gotta switch out chains. He's gonna go out and do some marking and surveying this morning, and then get to cutting this afternoon. We also need to walk the road spruces and pull the lodging grasses off them so they don't get laid down over winter. They're really starting to look good! I would leave just a few grasses on the south side of those spruce.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 28, 2019 10:03:25 GMT -6
There is no doubt that 8' woven wire was the best land management decision ive made to date. TurkeyTown will be, when finished, a private 60 acre island. No more trespassers or no roaming dogs. No more worries about outside influences messing with my goals. Guns being sighted in 1 day before gun season, 4 wheelers in the middle of the night, fireworks, ect ect, are non impactful. The end result has been...I am ejoying my property to the fullest. Creating and enjoying my goals. All the enjoyment with zero of the frustrations I use to deal with! Ballpark how much it cost to high fence 60 acres?
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Post by Bob on Nov 28, 2019 10:09:09 GMT -6
We talked about that over coffee this morning. I told him I could run ahead and nab us a couple grouse for the campfire this weekend. It's on the list, not sure if we'll get to it this weekend. The chainsaw has been brought inside to warm and we've gotta switch out chains. He's gonna go out and do some marking and surveying this morning, and then get to cutting this afternoon. We also need to walk the road spruces and pull the lodging grasses off them so they don't get laid down over winter. They're really starting to look good! I would leave just a few grasses on the south side of those spruce. All the grass gets left, I just have him pull back all the grass back that's laid or leaning over them.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 28, 2019 10:09:59 GMT -6
Accidentally spilling a few bags of milorganite along my corner/line where the aholes to the west hunt may have saved a deer or three. They sat my line like always, but nothing came through that area this year. May have been coincidence, may have been the milorganite. I'll be accidentally spilling some more next year. I have heard of wolf or coyote urine being used. Check out trapper supply sites. Before I went that route I'd buy a jug of the cheapest perfume I could find.
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Post by Bob on Nov 28, 2019 10:11:41 GMT -6
I have heard of wolf or coyote urine being used. Check out trapper supply sites. Before I went that route I'd buy a jug of the cheapest perfume I could find. I've got a box full of foreign scent on the floor. You got a board and paint scraper? I can leave some in your mailbox as we drive through on Sunday. I think we're gonna have to go home through MN. I-29 is no place to be when high winds are moving around a foot of powder.
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Post by mnfish on Nov 28, 2019 10:20:19 GMT -6
There is no doubt that 8' woven wire was the best land management decision ive made to date. TurkeyTown will be, when finished, a private 60 acre island. No more trespassers or no roaming dogs. No more worries about outside influences messing with my goals. Guns being sighted in 1 day before gun season, 4 wheelers in the middle of the night, fireworks, ect ect, are non impactful. The end result has been...I am ejoying my property to the fullest. Creating and enjoying my goals. All the enjoyment with zero of the frustrations I use to deal with! Ballpark how much it cost to high fence 60 acres? There are a lot of factors that will determine the cost. How u design the fence will also impact the cost. For example, deer farmers have min height requirements. No sagging below 8' allowed. Gates and overall quality of the fence will also impact the cost. TurkeyTown is not a deer farm, has a lot of low lands, reall nice gates, and a high quality of fence. Bottom line for me...around 45k all in.
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Post by batman on Nov 28, 2019 10:21:02 GMT -6
There is no doubt that 8' woven wire was the best land management decision ive made to date. TurkeyTown will be, when finished, a private 60 acre island. No more trespassers or no roaming dogs. No more worries about outside influences messing with my goals. Guns being sighted in 1 day before gun season, 4 wheelers in the middle of the night, fireworks, ect ect, are non impactful. The end result has been...I am ejoying my property to the fullest. Creating and enjoying my goals. All the enjoyment with zero of the frustrations I use to deal with! Ballpark how much it cost to high fence 60 acres? $30K
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Post by Catscratch on Nov 28, 2019 10:21:42 GMT -6
I've been a stay out hunter for a long time. No trail cams where I hunt, no stands (I hunted from the ground exclusively this season), no habitat work, etc. Works well for me. My bean plot with electric fence was great until about 3 weeks ago. Deer still spend some time in it but they're spending more time in the wheat/clover plots now. Quail loved this plot but I haven't seen them for a couple of weeks either. Too small and nothing left. Deer are the pumpkins this yrs. We dumped them out in a plot once they started to get soft and the deer have been hammering them. Yeah! You considering upping the numbers next year? Not many plot options can pump out 10-20 tons of food per acre!! You talking beans or pumpkins? My beans may or may not happen again next yr, still mulling that over. Pumpkins will happen but I don't know acreage yet. They are a pain to spray all the time and I'm not sure how valuable they are. Protein and palatablity levels vs how long they last. Could be a summer of spraying for a week of carbs. Might be easier to buy a couple bags of corn for carbs and have the plot in wheat.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 28, 2019 10:29:37 GMT -6
Ballpark how much it cost to high fence 60 acres? $30K How much for 25,000 acres? We have a preserve here in N.H. with a long history. Some of the buffalo were actually sent back west to help restock them when they were decimated. outsideinradio.org/shows/ep27I’m not sure but, it may be the first hunting preserve in the US.
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