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Post by batman on Apr 16, 2020 17:47:55 GMT -6
I see MN joined a pact with blue Midwest states. Yea fucking rah.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 16, 2020 18:05:29 GMT -6
May 26 gets us past the Memorial Day weekend. I bet you're right Freeborn, MN will do the same thing...or just extend it to June 1
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Post by smsmith on Apr 16, 2020 18:32:08 GMT -6
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 16, 2020 19:43:19 GMT -6
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Post by Foggy on Apr 16, 2020 20:34:07 GMT -6
These times are somewhat remindful of the prohibition years. The laws were too confining.....and the outlaws and speakeasies flourished as a result of over-regulation. Gonna be allot of folks forced to bend the laws to meet their needs. Cant say as I blame folks. Still.....you gotta be willing to be an outlaw. Damn Art will prolly start doing some JPS bootlegging again.
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Post by leexrayshady on Apr 16, 2020 21:02:26 GMT -6
I have changed my tune after seeing the amount of people in brainerd today. Absolutely packed in Menards. If the economy is hurting it sure doesn't look like it. Maybe it's just the stimulus checks but I can't feel sorry for people who have no job or decreased hours and yet are spending like a 10 year old with birthday money. I say keep it locked down till August. That is what our hospital is projecting normalization will be. People need to learn a lesson of personal economics, you would have thought they would have in the last recession.
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Post by batman on Apr 16, 2020 21:19:20 GMT -6
Your asking for unforeseen major problems.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 16, 2020 21:48:45 GMT -6
I have changed my tune after seeing the amount of people in brainerd today. Absolutely packed in Menards. If the economy is hurting it sure doesn't look like it. Maybe it's just the stimulus checks but I can't feel sorry for people who have no job or decreased hours and yet are spending like a 10 year old with birthday money. I say keep it locked down till August. That is what our hospital is projecting normalization will be. People need to learn a lesson of personal economics, you would have thought they would have in the last recession. Usually, I have a good gut to rely on. I simply don't know what to think. Learned today that we had three folks in our gated community (8000 peeps) that have had covid. All have recovered that I know of. This is "unofficial" sources. The "Official" sources say no cases in our hood....and 17 just outside our community in Goodyear AZ. Those numbers are not too scary.......but the rate at what it can spread is huge. Many folks with compromised lungs will not survive a bout of this disease. I have a number of friend and acquaintances that fill that bill. I worry about them. Still....most business and our economy is on the line. I have doubts my wife could survive this disease...she's had a heart valve replaced. But at some point....something is gonna get you. Difficult choices to make. I hope our leaders make good decisions. No good answers at present.....IMO. Another week may provide a clearer path? Stay healthy.....dont get old.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 17, 2020 3:32:00 GMT -6
These times are somewhat remindful of the prohibition years. The laws were too confining.....and the outlaws and speakeasies flourished as a result of over-regulation. Gonna be allot of folks forced to bend the laws to meet their needs. Cant say as I blame folks. Still.....you gotta be willing to be an outlaw. Damn Art will prolly start doing some JPS bootlegging again. To start again means a person stopped !
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 17, 2020 5:01:33 GMT -6
Cuomo the homo extended our shut down until 5/15 yesterday but that won’t be the last extension. Meanwhile in upstate we have very few cases and from what I can tell most of them came from people traveling and spreading it when they got back. The construction industry is being devastated. Unless you are working on a state job, infrastructure, or Amazon you are shut down. Our construction season is short enough these guys can’t loose a couple months. I have companies that run small crews that wouldn’t need to even be within 30 feet of each other that are shut down. They made my car wash shut down because the brush guy is within 6 feet of the customers. THEY ARE IN THEIR FUCKING CARS. We are on a one size fits all plan and the size fits NYC. It was going to be a stretch to keep everyone locked down until 5/1 the revolts are coming.
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 17, 2020 5:19:11 GMT -6
Lots of questions, few answers and allot of bias out there within the decision makers. Many decision makers are privileged and protected people. How can decision makers who are protected from economic reality because they have government money or government pensions understand what people tied to the economy feel. If 8 million people lose their job and you are not affected and have nothing to worry about how can you truly understand how people feel or what they are going through.
I have thought for a long time anybody who works for the government needs to be made to feel economic affects. If 8 million workers lose their jobs, lose their pensions or take pay cuts then government employees need to take the same reduction. I know next year most peoples property and income taxes will go up if they have a job or not and if there is a recession/depression or not. Something needs to change in that regard, to many protected people who vote but are removed from the reality of what they vote for.
Tough decision, I don't know how they can completely open the economy until they have something that mitigates the symptoms so people can survive.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 17, 2020 5:45:30 GMT -6
I have changed my tune after seeing the amount of people in brainerd today. Absolutely packed in Menards. If the economy is hurting it sure doesn't look like it. Maybe it's just the stimulus checks but I can't feel sorry for people who have no job or decreased hours and yet are spending like a 10 year old with birthday money. I say keep it locked down till August. That is what our hospital is projecting normalization will be. People need to learn a lesson of personal economics, you would have thought they would have in the last recession. That was what the Menard's in Alex looked like last week. Yesterday it was very, very quiet. I was there earlier in the day (10ish instead of 1ish), so maybe that made the difference.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 17, 2020 6:01:22 GMT -6
I have changed my tune after seeing the amount of people in brainerd today. Absolutely packed in Menards. If the economy is hurting it sure doesn't look like it. Maybe it's just the stimulus checks but I can't feel sorry for people who have no job or decreased hours and yet are spending like a 10 year old with birthday money. I say keep it locked down till August. That is what our hospital is projecting normalization will be. People need to learn a lesson of personal economics, you would have thought they would have in the last recession. Usually, I have a good gut to rely on. I simply don't know what to think. Learned today that we had three folks in our gated community (8000 peeps) that have had covid. All have recovered that I know of. This is "unofficial" sources. The "Official" sources say no cases in our hood....and 17 just outside our community in Goodyear AZ. Those numbers are not too scary.......but the rate at what it can spread is huge. Many folks with compromised lungs will not survive a bout of this disease. I have a number of friend and acquaintances that fill that bill. I worry about them. Still....most business and our economy is on the line. I have doubts my wife could survive this disease...she's had a heart valve replaced. But at some point....something is gonna get you. Difficult choices to make. I hope our leaders make good decisions. No good answers at present.....IMO. Another week may provide a clearer path? Stay healthy.....dont get old. I had been pretty much "on board" with most of the decisions that have been made. However, I'm really starting to feel that this is becoming political, and that bothers me.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 17, 2020 6:12:08 GMT -6
I have changed my tune after seeing the amount of people in brainerd today. Absolutely packed in Menards. If the economy is hurting it sure doesn't look like it. Maybe it's just the stimulus checks but I can't feel sorry for people who have no job or decreased hours and yet are spending like a 10 year old with birthday money. I say keep it locked down till August. That is what our hospital is projecting normalization will be. People need to learn a lesson of personal economics, you would have thought they would have in the last recession. Lee, Hospitals all over the country are hurting due to no patients. They’re furloughing or firing people. This is going to put small hospitals out of business. 125,000 people in NH lost their jobs this month. 30 people have passed because of the virus. We lose 400+ a year to drugs and nobody bats an eye.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 17, 2020 6:16:17 GMT -6
Usually, I have a good gut to rely on. I simply don't know what to think. Learned today that we had three folks in our gated community (8000 peeps) that have had covid. All have recovered that I know of. This is "unofficial" sources. The "Official" sources say no cases in our hood....and 17 just outside our community in Goodyear AZ. Those numbers are not too scary.......but the rate at what it can spread is huge. Many folks with compromised lungs will not survive a bout of this disease. I have a number of friend and acquaintances that fill that bill. I worry about them. Still....most business and our economy is on the line. I have doubts my wife could survive this disease...she's had a heart valve replaced. But at some point....something is gonna get you. Difficult choices to make. I hope our leaders make good decisions. No good answers at present.....IMO. Another week may provide a clearer path? Stay healthy.....dont get old. I had been pretty much "on board" with most of the decisions that have been made. However, I'm really starting to feel that this is becoming political, and that bothers me. It’s been political from the start. Trump shut off China. They said he was racist. He shut off Europe. Said he was racist. Then the virus takes hold and they say he didn’t act soon enough. All while the fake impeachment was going on. Then they delay the stimulus and pack it full of extras including $6500 a year raises for themselves.
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