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Post by smsmith on Mar 29, 2020 15:54:02 GMT -6
I put in a clover plot for my neighbor last year. Nuked it three times and broadcast seed before some rain. It is spotty at best. We frost seeded a bunch more clover last week. But there is lots of what I assume are winter annual weeds and probably young perennials as well. Should I try Butyrac? Hit it with gly and hope the existing clover survives?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Mar 29, 2020 16:10:23 GMT -6
I put in a clover plot for my neighbor last year. Nuked it three times and broadcast seed before some rain. It is spotty at best. We frost seeded a bunch more clover last week. But there is lots of what I assume are winter annual weeds and probably young perennials as well. Should I try Butyrac? Hit it with gly and hope the existing clover survives? I would mow it off several times this year to control weeds if you can. Then hit it with chemical next year after roots are established. 16oz of 4lb glyphosate will work pretty well. Then Buty 200 3 weeks later for cleanup.
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Post by kabic on Mar 30, 2020 11:55:10 GMT -6
Use more Buty per acre than i did ladt yesr...i think i am plowing/tilling mine under this year.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 30, 2020 12:38:44 GMT -6
I put in a clover plot for my neighbor last year. Nuked it three times and broadcast seed before some rain. It is spotty at best. We frost seeded a bunch more clover last week. But there is lots of what I assume are winter annual weeds and probably young perennials as well. Should I try Butyrac? Hit it with gly and hope the existing clover survives? I would mow it off several times this year to control weeds if you can. Then hit it with chemical next year after roots are established. 16oz of 4lb glyphosate will work pretty well. Then Buty 200 3 weeks later for cleanup. I think this is the way to proceed. With any luck, the winter annuals do their thing and die off...and some clover takes off in those voids. If we get timely rains this growing season, it may work. Nuke it next year with a light dose of gly and if that doesn't clean it up enough...I'm not sure what to do.
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Post by kabic on Mar 30, 2020 12:57:49 GMT -6
Use more Buty per acre than i did ladt yesr...i think i am plowing/tilling mine under this year. Went back and found my post. I sprayed a pint Butyrac on an acre. Should have done 2 pints per acre.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 30, 2020 15:21:45 GMT -6
Use more Buty per acre than i did ladt yesr...i think i am plowing/tilling mine under this year. Went back and found my post. I sprayed a pint Butyrac on an acre. Should have done 2 pints per acre. Did you use any surfactant or crop oil?
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Post by kabic on Mar 30, 2020 16:05:14 GMT -6
Went back and found my post. I sprayed a pint Butyrac on an acre. Should have done 2 pints per acre. Did you use any surfactant or crop oil? Negative, pretty positive i did not..
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Mar 30, 2020 17:35:28 GMT -6
I would mow it off several times this year to control weeds if you can. Then hit it with chemical next year after roots are established. 16oz of 4lb glyphosate will work pretty well. Then Buty 200 3 weeks later for cleanup. I think this is the way to proceed. With any luck, the winter annuals do their thing and die off...and some clover takes off in those voids. If we get timely rains this growing season, it may work. Nuke it next year with a light dose of gly and if that doesn't clean it up enough...I'm not sure what to do. When I get back to missouri I will take some pictures of some clover plots we have kept going for years. What I have been doing as they thin out is broadcast a brassica into the clover in july or august to fill in the thin spots. What grows grows and helps shade out weeds. Then I go back in sept/oct and broadcast clover back in the thin spots. Then as the brassicas die off or get eaten the clover starts coming through and takes off next spring. Spray weeds in june and repeat. Been working for us down there.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 30, 2020 18:37:55 GMT -6
I think this is the way to proceed. With any luck, the winter annuals do their thing and die off...and some clover takes off in those voids. If we get timely rains this growing season, it may work. Nuke it next year with a light dose of gly and if that doesn't clean it up enough...I'm not sure what to do. When I get back to missouri I will take some pictures of some clover plots we have kept going for years. What I have been doing as they thin out is broadcast a brassica into the clover in july or august to fill in the thin spots. What grows grows and helps shade out weeds. Then I go back in sept/oct and broadcast clover back in the thin spots. Then as the brassicas die off or get eaten the clover starts coming through and takes off next spring. Spray weeds in june and repeat. Been working for us down there. I've got one plot that I've been doing about the same thing. That is ultimately my intention with all of my plots. I'll only grow mixed clovers and brassicas from now on. Maybe throw down some oats once in a while. I'm not sure what the neighbor will do with his plot long term. I do want to get him a decent stand of clover at some point.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Mar 30, 2020 18:48:32 GMT -6
When I get back to missouri I will take some pictures of some clover plots we have kept going for years. What I have been doing as they thin out is broadcast a brassica into the clover in july or august to fill in the thin spots. What grows grows and helps shade out weeds. Then I go back in sept/oct and broadcast clover back in the thin spots. Then as the brassicas die off or get eaten the clover starts coming through and takes off next spring. Spray weeds in june and repeat. Been working for us down there. I've got one plot that I've been doing about the same thing. That is ultimately my intention with all of my plots. I'll only grow mixed clovers and brassicas from now on. Maybe throw down some oats once in a while. I'm not sure what the neighbor will do with his plot long term. I do want to get him a decent stand of clover at some point. I will throw in leftover spring wheat that I have on hand once in a while. anything growing in a thin spot to help suppress weeds is better then nothing.
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 23, 2020 7:48:57 GMT -6
On the clover topic, what clover would be best for heavy shaded trails in the woods? And also needs to be somewhat tough to expect light ATV traffic a couple times a year.
And back to weedy clover. I have one plot that could use some weed treatment. Is something like 24Db an option to take out some of the broadleafs? I have never tried using it before.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 23, 2020 10:03:10 GMT -6
On the clover topic, what clover would be best for heavy shaded trails in the woods? And also needs to be somewhat tough to expect light ATV traffic a couple times a year. And back to weedy clover. I have one plot that could use some weed treatment. Is something like 24Db an option to take out some of the broadleafs? I have never tried using it before. Before I logged my place......most all I had were shady trails and a few small plots. At that time I had read allot of what Lick Creek was posting......and he was big on Alice White Clover. So I bought some of that. I had some pretty shaded trails......and that Alice White was some of the best clover stands I ever had. Lasted for a few years and mostly I just mowed it. I did the Roundup in Spring trick.....and that worked really well to take the weeds out.....but I think I have had some good success with Butyerac as well. Just slower to see the results.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 24, 2020 19:07:16 GMT -6
Volunteer clover is appearing in my two year old corn plot. This only happens on my best soils.
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Post by leexrayshady on May 6, 2020 8:57:35 GMT -6
I sprayed a couple of small clover chicory plots that I planted last year, on Monday with IMOX will see how well that works, looking pretty thin will have to add some more seed I think
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Post by biglakebass on May 6, 2020 9:37:23 GMT -6
Imox?
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