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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2017 18:05:10 GMT -6
MN has been a one buck state for a long time. Doesn't do shit for making guys think about passing little bucks.
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Post by kl9 on Mar 7, 2017 18:21:49 GMT -6
If there were more deer/hunter in certain areas don't you think 1 buck/person would make a difference?
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Post by kl9 on Mar 7, 2017 18:23:48 GMT -6
Also, if MN went to 2 buck/hunter I'd imagine the buck age structure would further deteriorate, implying that 1 buck/hunter helps. Thoughts?
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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2017 18:25:12 GMT -6
If there were more deer/hunter in certain areas don't you think 1 buck/person would make a difference? I have my doubts. Just be more moms, wives, cousins, uncles, kids, etc. buying tags so they can "fill them themselves"
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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2017 18:27:38 GMT -6
Also, if MN went to 2 buck/hunter I'd imagine the buck age structure would further deteriorate, implying that 1 buck/hunter helps. Thoughts? I don't know. I hunted bow and gun this year and had one shot at a scrub yearling 6 point. There could be an 8 buck limit in MN and I still would have had the same number of shots last year. Does it help down where you hunt? Sure, you have an actual deer herd there.
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Post by kl9 on Mar 7, 2017 18:35:27 GMT -6
Also, if MN went to 2 buck/hunter I'd imagine the buck age structure would further deteriorate, implying that 1 buck/hunter helps. Thoughts? I don't know. I hunted bow and gun this year and had one shot at a scrub yearling 6 point. There could be an 8 buck limit in MN and I still would have had the same number of shots last year. Does it help down where you hunt? Sure, you have an actual deer herd there. I don't know if I have enough history here to make a determination. I do have a couple neighbors that make me very grateful for the 1 buck per person rule. I will say I had a large number of bucks on trail cam.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Mar 7, 2017 18:37:34 GMT -6
We had a 3 buck limit in Missouri for years, now it is a 2 buck limit, one with a gun one with a bow. I only know a few in my area of NW Missouri, that has ever taken more than one buck per year, even though they could.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2017 18:42:48 GMT -6
We had a 3 buck limit in Missouri for years, now it is a 2 buck limit, one with a gun one with a bow. I only know a few in my area of NW Missouri, that has ever taken more than one buck per year, even though they could. WI was always a 2 buck state, one with bow, one with a firearm. I could have shot 2 bucks a number of times, but never did. I never saw a reason to kill more than one. I did shoot a doe and a buck a couple years and decided that was really stupid. I didn't need or want that much venison. When I moved here I was perfectly fine with it being a one buck state. I still am. I would like to see it become a one deer state.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Mar 7, 2017 18:49:44 GMT -6
The one buck limit in MN is mute point if you can keep hunting after tagging a deer. Have a restriction that says tag filled, license is filled. No cross tagging.
I'd even be ok with party hunting during the gun season only...as long as you are then done after the gun season, no muzzy hunting.
There is a guy I know. We will call him Bob. He hunts every day 9 day gun season. Then he's out every day during the muzzy season. Any deer shot go on family tags. He will not quit hunting. I know he shot 4 deer one year, maybe 5?
I don't think he even tries to keep it a secret.
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Post by kl9 on Mar 7, 2017 18:54:25 GMT -6
I am thankful for no buck cross tagging down here.
In regards to MO, I think you would have to keep in mind policy relative to the average hunter mindset when trying to figure out if the buck tag/hunter would make a difference.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2017 18:55:08 GMT -6
The one buck limit in MN is mute point if you can keep hunting after tagging a deer. Have a restriction that says tag filled, license is filled. No cross tagging. I'd even be ok with party hunting during the gun season only...as long as you are then done after the gun season, no muzzy hunting. There is a guy I know. We will call him Bob. He hunts every day 9 day gun season. Then he's out every day during the muzzy season. Any deer shot go on family tags. He will not quit hunting. I know he shot 4 deer one year, maybe 5? I don't think he even tries to keep it a secret. There are a number of guys who I've encountered who either don't know it's illegal to fill tags the way they do...or they just don't give a shit. It certainly appears to me that shooting deer for people who aren't actively hunting is the norm here, not the exception.
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 7, 2017 19:00:52 GMT -6
The one buck limit in MN is mute point if you can keep hunting after tagging a deer. Have a restriction that says tag filled, license is filled. No cross tagging. I'd even be ok with party hunting during the gun season only...as long as you are then done after the gun season, no muzzy hunting. There is a guy I know. We will call him Bob. He hunts every day 9 day gun season. Then he's out every day during the muzzy season. Any deer shot go on family tags. He will not quit hunting. I know he shot 4 deer one year, maybe 5? I don't think he even tries to keep it a secret. I agree with the one and done. People should not be filling other peoples tags. I also agree the overall season is to long with Muzzy season.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Mar 7, 2017 19:01:23 GMT -6
It's unbelievable.
I hear guys say at the bar, I filled my wife's tag. I ask oh does she hunt??
"No"
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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2017 19:06:39 GMT -6
It's unbelievable. I hear guys say at the bar, I filled my wife's tag. I ask oh does she hunt?? "No" Yep. At the bar, in Walmart, in line at Fleet Supply, at Coborn's...pretty much wherever I go during gun season.
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Post by Coda1 on Mar 7, 2017 21:08:01 GMT -6
There are a number of guys who I've encountered who either don't know it's illegal to fill tags the way they do...or they just don't give a shit. It certainly appears to me that shooting deer for people who aren't actively hunting is the norm here, not the exception. This is why I am opposed to eliminating cross tagging. Many will do it anyway so it only affects the few that follow the rules. I lived on the North Dakota border for a few years and even though there is supposed to be no cross tagging in ND it happened all the time. On average I only shoot a deer every two or three years but it is usually on the first or second day of firearms season. It would suck not to be able to hunt the rest of the season even though I rarely shoot another. It would suck even more knowing others were still cross tagging. If I thought it would make a significant difference I would be for it. I think APRs would make more of a difference so I support APRs. As an added bonus with APRs guys would have to get a better look at the deer before blasting away into the brush so a few more does would make it though.
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