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Post by wklman on Aug 15, 2020 22:00:58 GMT -6
If you're willing to give up one type of gun, you might as well give them all up. I do understand your point. But I think that is not true. Depends if you need an offensive weapon or a defensive weapon.....and I suppose that will remain debatable. Most of us will be well saved by a lever action or pump action firearm for our defensive (or offensive) needs....if we get to that point. And....we wouldn't witness some of the horrific killings that can happen with auto-loaders. Compromise???.....yeah.....maybe so. But if it keeps folks alive that is a benefit too. Personally, I dont think the American public is best served with auto.loading, high capacity firearms. I do know this is not the narrative of the NRA......and some of our forum members....non the less....that is my thoughts on this issue.. I just wish the NRA could have recognized this sooner.......sadly, it's too late now.....as they have drawn a line in the sand. The problem is that you can't legislate morals. If somebody wants to go out and kill a bunch of people they're gonna do it. Whether it's with a gun, knife, truck, bomb, poison, or leafblower they're gonna find a way to do it. Why limit my freedoms because you want a false sense of security? It's like me saying you should give up your money because I don't have any.
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Post by Reagan on Aug 16, 2020 5:47:04 GMT -6
Give up the black rifles the next thing we will hear is that the lever action is a rapid fire military weapon far more advanced than the musket that was popular when the constitution was written.
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 16, 2020 6:46:59 GMT -6
Foggy, you are well thought out and have lots of life experience. I respect your opinion highly but disagree with you on this one. I view limits on the 2nd Amendment equivalent to limits on the 1st in relation to speech. Should free speech be limited to writen and spoken word in person, or should we have the right to use the internet to convey our thoughts? Many could say satellite and internet make our words far to powerful, and someone with hurtful intentions could sway too many people with too much ease.
We've all lived in a relatively peaceful and safe environment afforded to us through the constitution. The largest check and balance citizens own is the right to form a "well armed" militia. I truly believe the NEED to fight the government (so far in our country's history) has been nonexistent because of the checks and balances written and defined as our rights as citizens. I fear messing that up will have great long term effects.
I do not own a single weapon that I bought because I felt I needed it for protection or defense. I have yet to honestly fear for my life in a manner that a gun would resolve. If you want your defensive gun to be a lever then by all means use it. I'm in no position to tell you that it fires too fast, has too large of a ammo tube, or too damaging of a round.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 16, 2020 6:57:31 GMT -6
Any talk of magazine capacity is a losing topic. It takes the focus away from law and order and personal responsibility. There are no regulations on skateboards, yet they became very effective weapons when white antifa rioters wanted to beat up elderly women and black people.
Today's burning cities are a prime example of why high capacity magazines are as necessary a deterrent as nuclear weapons. If you're a single vulnerable person staring at 50 people that want to burn your house down simply because you made good life choices, the only thing equalizing that situation is your ability to bear your teeth with that AR, Glock, or a security shotgun loaded up with buckshot.
Member when they came for Wyatt Erp's cat?
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 16, 2020 7:14:28 GMT -6
Might be a good idea to have Bob Barker (or whatever you named your behind the door defender) handy if a mob of unhinged people start freaking out at the end of your driveway.
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Aug 16, 2020 7:18:31 GMT -6
Tooln likes this
Post by chummer16 on Aug 16, 2020 7:18:31 GMT -6
Real tough guy intimating a bunch of teenage girls. Eventually these guys will pick the wrong guy and it will end very different.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 16, 2020 12:25:17 GMT -6
I was a member, not anymore. They hassled the fuck out of me for money all the time. Fuck that. If they would leave a guy alone, maybe I would join back up.
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Post by kabic on Aug 16, 2020 12:29:25 GMT -6
There's gun owners of America. They do some pretty good stuff. GOA would be the organization I donate money to. They are one filing lawsuits to fight for our rights lately.
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Post by badbrad on Aug 16, 2020 17:42:10 GMT -6
I was a member, not anymore. They hassled the fuck out of me for money all the time. Fuck that. If they would leave a guy alone, maybe I would join back up. This^^^^ And in addition you would get mail from there like twice a week. I'm like why am I giving you money so you can blow it on postage to mail me excessively for more money. If they would stop doing that I would join back up. Use that money to fight the cause not annoy me.
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Aug 16, 2020 19:00:06 GMT -6
via mobile
Post by Sandbur on Aug 16, 2020 19:00:06 GMT -6
I was a member, not anymore. They hassled the fuck out of me for money all the time. Fuck that. If they would leave a guy alone, maybe I would join back up. This^^^^ And in addition you would get mail from there like twice a week. I'm like why am I giving you money so you can blow it on postage to mail me excessively for more money. If they would stop doing that I would join back up. Use that money to fight the cause not annoy me. I have not received as many mailings in the last six months or so.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 16, 2020 19:04:05 GMT -6
This^^^^ And in addition you would get mail from there like twice a week. I'm like why am I giving you money so you can blow it on postage to mail me excessively for more money. If they would stop doing that I would join back up. Use that money to fight the cause not annoy me. I have not received as many mailings in the last six months or so. That's because Wayne and his family spent all the money on Caribbean vacations Seriously, he needs to go. He is a cancer
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Aug 16, 2020 22:02:17 GMT -6
via mobile
Post by smallchunk on Aug 16, 2020 22:02:17 GMT -6
I was a member, not anymore. They hassled the fuck out of me for money all the time. Fuck that. If they would leave a guy alone, maybe I would join back up. This^^^^ And in addition you would get mail from there like twice a week. I'm like why am I giving you money so you can blow it on postage to mail me excessively for more money. If they would stop doing that I would join back up. Use that money to fight the cause not annoy me. Exactly! I joined about ten years ago and stopped because it was so annoying
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Post by Reagan on Aug 18, 2020 19:57:07 GMT -6
Saw this on another forum and stole it. The NRA used to mail me a bunch of crap and call me to often. I told them during one of the calls to stop contacting me or I would drop them. Haven’t heard from the since.
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Post by Tooln on Feb 16, 2021 19:29:31 GMT -6
Bringing this thread back to life. Now that fuckin biden is in and going after the NRA I'm joining tomorrow.
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Post by badgerfowl on Feb 16, 2021 19:57:05 GMT -6
I ordered another pistol two days ago that will undoubtedly be lost at sea at some point. .380 ACP S&W Shield EZ
Not easy finding ammo but I’ve got 100 rounds coming to at least fire the damn thing.
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