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Post by badbrad on Aug 26, 2020 6:49:46 GMT -6
Since some of us have very heavy wet and challenging soils here in the north this caught my eye when they talk about it at about the
3:20 min mark. I wonder if you can use a sprayer to apply instead of a using a planter? Discuss.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 26, 2020 7:19:49 GMT -6
Since some of us have very heavy wet and challenging soils here in the north this caught my eye when they talk about it at about the 3:20 min mark. I wonder if you can use a sprayer to apply instead of a using a planter? Discuss. What are you trying to address? |
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Post by batman on Aug 26, 2020 9:00:08 GMT -6
You can buy it as a powder in bags
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Post by badbrad on Aug 26, 2020 10:29:12 GMT -6
Since some of us have very heavy wet and challenging soils here in the north this caught my eye when they talk about it at about the 3:20 min mark. I wonder if you can use a sprayer to apply instead of a using a planter? Discuss. What are you trying to address? Anything to improve my soil. Nothing specific. |
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Post by badbrad on Aug 26, 2020 10:29:29 GMT -6
You can buy it as a powder in bags Ever use it? Thoughts? |
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 26, 2020 11:32:20 GMT -6
If I remember right Grandpa Ray's was big on selling those products. I considered them but never put much into researching and deciding if my place needed them. Probably should look at it again.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 26, 2020 12:07:04 GMT -6
What are you trying to address? Anything to improve my soil. Nothing specific. Potion commotion! (I just made that up) Humics and fulvics occur in healthy soil all on their own. Get some cereals in your rotation somewhere and keep some residue on top, and you'll get it. Don't let sun and rain hit your clay directly and you'll be able to survive adverse conditions better. |
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Post by badbrad on Aug 26, 2020 12:20:27 GMT -6
Anything to improve my soil. Nothing specific. Potion commotion! (I just made that up) Humics and fulvics occur in healthy soil all on their own. Get some cereals in your rotation somewhere and keep some residue on top, and you'll get it. Don't let sun and rain hit your clay directly and you'll be able to survive adverse conditions better. Cereals don't attract deer like I demand. Yes I know deer eat them and eat them a lot at certain times of the year but it doesn't compare to the cash crops. I'm too old to waste fooling with cover crops. I want results and lots of deer now. So can I put that stuff down and help my cash crops grow? |
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 26, 2020 14:15:00 GMT -6
Potion commotion! (I just made that up) Humics and fulvics occur in healthy soil all on their own. Get some cereals in your rotation somewhere and keep some residue on top, and you'll get it. Don't let sun and rain hit your clay directly and you'll be able to survive adverse conditions better. Cereals don't attract deer like I demand. Yes I know deer eat them and eat them a lot at certain times of the year but it doesn't compare to the cash crops. I'm too old to waste fooling with cover crops. I want results and lots of deer now. So can I put that stuff down and help my cash crops grow?If the system is working, don't change it. I seem to find new ways to do things wrong every year. Only way to really know on that stuff is to do a side by side trial. |
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Post by batman on Aug 26, 2020 14:29:52 GMT -6
You can buy it as a powder in bags Ever use it? Thoughts? Have never used either product. |
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Post by Tooln on Aug 27, 2020 5:44:10 GMT -6
Have you ever tried turnips or radishes? Anything with a long tap root will help break up open up heavy soils. They will also feed during the winter. Shit your not even in your 50's yet so what you talking about being to old. Your getting good deer on pics, your plots now look good. Why not strip plant tap root and cereals with your cash crop. You'll get the best of both worlds. Cereals or BW will do wonders building organic matter. My plots were heavy and wet and it worked for me.
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Post by benmnwi on Aug 27, 2020 12:02:47 GMT -6
Soybeans are my best deer attractant, but every year I plant a strip of brassicas to give the deer another option and improve the soil. On the brassica rotation years I plant the brassicas in July, but prior to that I plant oats as soon as the soil dries out in the spring. I think having oats then brassicas on the same ground in one year helps build up the soil a bit and improves my soybeans there the following year.
I need the bonus organic matter to keep the moisture in my sandy soil, but you need the extra organic matter to help drain the soil better.
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Post by Freeborn on Aug 27, 2020 12:10:14 GMT -6
Cereals don't attract deer like I demand. Yes I know deer eat them and eat them a lot at certain times of the year but it doesn't compare to the cash crops. I'm too old to waste fooling with cover crops. I want results and lots of deer now. So can I put that stuff down and help my cash crops grow?If the system is working, don't change it. I seem to find new ways to do things wrong every year. Only way to really know on that stuff is to do a side by side trial. Same with me, sometimes the harder you try to perfect something the worse you make things. Keep it simple and you are better off. |
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Post by smallchunk on Aug 27, 2020 12:13:45 GMT -6
I have a guy I teach with that always says KISS (keep it simple stupid). I like that haha.
It will be interesting to see if your corn is a value to you this year.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 27, 2020 13:31:43 GMT -6
If the system is working, don't change it. I seem to find new ways to do things wrong every year. Only way to really know on that stuff is to do a side by side trial. Same with me, sometimes the harder you try to perfect something the worse you make things. Keep it simple and you are better off. I can't help but tinker. Gives me something to look forward to. I can always fall back on the white clover, so I can be pretty reckless with the rest. On top of planting a bunch of new things I've never tried before (which we won't see until next spring) I also tried planting sorghum in late July. I really wonder if I can get it to the soft dough stage where Cat's deer wiped his out. |
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