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Post by badgerfowl on Sept 30, 2020 7:14:35 GMT -6
I watched most of the debacle. I saw nothing positive for Trump. Not much for Creepy Joe either, but he did come off as more competent than I had expected. Another debate like last night's will do nothing to get Trump re-elected IMO. Most people have already made up there mind. These won’t change anything. More worried about ballot harvesting than the few swing voters these debates will matter to. Still think it will be a landslide.
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Post by kooch on Sept 30, 2020 7:20:16 GMT -6
The whole thing was embarrassing. I felt the same way I used to watching a youth sporting event where parents or coaches get out of hand screaming and yelling. Cringe.
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Post by badgerfowl on Sept 30, 2020 7:23:56 GMT -6
The whole thing was embarrassing. I felt the same way I used to watching a youth sporting event where parents or coaches get out of hand screaming and yelling. Cringe. Yup it’s just cringeworthy. Couldn’t finish watching it. There’s no point. We know what each person is at this point.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 30, 2020 7:24:08 GMT -6
I watched it all, even though it was painful. That debate just reassured us that the establishment continues to go after Trump by the way Wallace acted. Moderator should be seen not heard. His Biased questions towards Trump should have been expected, its nothing new from the news media. Chris Wallace is getting hammered online right now. Good thing is Wallace complaints have overshadowed the shitty performance by both candidates.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 30, 2020 7:26:43 GMT -6
I watched most of the debacle. I saw nothing positive for Trump. Not much for Creepy Joe either, but he did come off as more competent than I had expected. Another debate like last night's will do nothing to get Trump re-elected IMO. Most people have already made up there mind. These won’t change anything. More worried about ballot harvesting than the few swing voters these debates will matter to. Still think it will be a landslide. Hope you're right. I'm still guessing Trump will lose the popular vote again, but win via electoral college.
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Post by Freeborn on Sept 30, 2020 7:27:32 GMT -6
I watched most of the debacle. I saw nothing positive for Trump. Not much for Creepy Joe either, but he did come off as more competent than I had expected. Another debate like last night's will do nothing to get Trump re-elected IMO. Its interesting to watch the post-mortem on the debate. People see what they want to see. I don't know how it will get any better. The democrats lie constantly and have zero regard for truth so Trump argues about what they are claiming. What should occur is they should be discussing the merits of their policies but what is true and what is not is hard to determine in todays world. Until we have a working press its not going to get any better.
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Post by buckvelvet on Sept 30, 2020 7:45:35 GMT -6
I watched the debate, if you watched any of 2016 GOP primary debates, or the 2016 presidential debates you ALREADY knew what Trump would do in this one. He's a agitator in a debate, he will continue to berate the other person with stuff they can't answer until they just say 'F it' try to return their own version of his tactics and fail miserably. Biden though he seems to be having a better 'alzheimers' day last night still played the fool. He's now not for 'the new green deal' wants the support of the 'policy, law & order', when Trump said you just lost the left I laughed my ass off. None of Kamala Harris and her minions would support the position Joe Biden took last night on those issues.
I think the worst part of the debate last night was Biden's refusal to answer the court packing question. You can't hide behind your party's agenda when you proudly proclaim 'I am my party'. The funiest thing to me was when Wallace asked Biden if he called the mayor of Portland, or Seattle etc... as the head of his party to ask them to get it fixed. ......'crickets'...... lol
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Post by Bwoods11 on Sept 30, 2020 7:51:25 GMT -6
Bidens eyes were wide open at times--strange looking, not like his past sleepy looking days in the past. He didn't stumble and bumble as much. If it is Adderall, it worked.
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Post by badgerfowl on Sept 30, 2020 8:08:32 GMT -6
Bidens eyes were wide open at times--strange looking, not like his past sleepy looking days in the past. He didn't stumble and bumble as much. If it is Adderall, it worked. Must be giving him the RBG drugs.
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Post by Freeborn on Sept 30, 2020 8:32:21 GMT -6
There are side affects from the debate. I just got back from having my flu shot and the young Pharmacist and I were discussing it while he gave me the shot. Obviously the more he talked about it the more I got pissed off. At the end I was fighting mad and he could tell. We both said our "have a good day" and went on our own way.
It does make you wonder where we are headed when the nation is so Polarized?
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Post by smsmith on Sept 30, 2020 8:36:50 GMT -6
There are side affects from the debate. I just got back from having my flu shot and the young Pharmacist and I were discussing it while he gave me the shot. Obviously the more he talked about it the more I got pissed off. At the end I was fighting mad and he could tell. We both said our "have a good day" and went on our own way. It does make you wonder where we are headed when the nation is so Polarized? Yep. The idea of another civil war used to be laughable to me...it isn't any longer. I really wish Trump would have rehearsed/prepared for some of the questions. Refusing to at least denounce white supremacists was a mistake. A well rehearsed/prepared answer would have been to of course denounce the KKK and others like them, but to denounce all militias would be impossible. Not all militias are composed of white supremacists or have white supremacist members.
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Post by buckvelvet on Sept 30, 2020 9:17:56 GMT -6
There are side affects from the debate. I just got back from having my flu shot and the young Pharmacist and I were discussing it while he gave me the shot. Obviously the more he talked about it the more I got pissed off. At the end I was fighting mad and he could tell. We both said our "have a good day" and went on our own way. It does make you wonder where we are headed when the nation is so Polarized? Yep. The idea of another civil war used to be laughable to me...it isn't any longer. I really wish Trump would have rehearsed/prepared for some of the questions. Refusing to at least denounce white supremacists was a mistake. A well rehearsed/prepared answer would have been to of course denounce the KKK and others like them, but to denounce all militias would be impossible. Not all militias are composed of white supremacists or have white supremacist members. To be fair, Trump asked what he should call them (meaning what group exactly he should be denouncing) because they named a few.
In the same breathe shouldn't Biden denounce 'black lives matter', I mean, you really think that group is about race?.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 30, 2020 9:22:28 GMT -6
Yep. The idea of another civil war used to be laughable to me...it isn't any longer. I really wish Trump would have rehearsed/prepared for some of the questions. Refusing to at least denounce white supremacists was a mistake. A well rehearsed/prepared answer would have been to of course denounce the KKK and others like them, but to denounce all militias would be impossible. Not all militias are composed of white supremacists or have white supremacist members. To be fair, Trump asked what he should call them (meaning what group exactly he should be denouncing) because they named a few.
In the same breathe shouldn't Biden denounce 'black lives matter', I mean, you really think that group is about race?. Yep, but I'm not looking at helping Biden, I'm looking at helping Trump. Trump's base is solid, but I think there are plenty of folks out there who are torn between voting for a childish bully and an incompetent puppet controlled by socialists. Some well prepared/rehearsed answers would have helped Trump last night IMO.
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Post by buckvelvet on Sept 30, 2020 9:29:11 GMT -6
To be fair, Trump asked what he should call them (meaning what group exactly he should be denouncing) because they named a few.
In the same breathe shouldn't Biden denounce 'black lives matter', I mean, you really think that group is about race?. Yep, but I'm not looking at helping Biden, I'm looking at helping Trump. Trump's base is solid, but I think there are plenty of folks out there who are torn between voting for a childish bully and an incompetent puppet controlled by socialists. Some well prepared/rehearsed answers would have helped Trump last night IMO. I don't deny what your saying at all, because it is true. I just can't fathom being a person that is torn between the 2. I'm sure all here or most here totally understand what I mean, I knew I was voting for Trump within the first week he announced he would be running for President in 2016.
I can't imagine going through this life, but this year specifically and not KNOWING what you believe.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 30, 2020 9:43:17 GMT -6
Yep, but I'm not looking at helping Biden, I'm looking at helping Trump. Trump's base is solid, but I think there are plenty of folks out there who are torn between voting for a childish bully and an incompetent puppet controlled by socialists. Some well prepared/rehearsed answers would have helped Trump last night IMO. I don't deny what your saying at all, because it is true. I just can't fathom being a person that is torn between the 2. I'm sure all here or most here totally understand what I mean, I knew I was voting for Trump within the first week he announced he would be running for President in 2016.
I can't imagine going through this life, but this year specifically and not KNOWING what you believe.
I think there are an awful lot of people in the middle who have no interest in socialism, but who also cannot stand Trump. I personally do not like Trump at all. I don't vote based on whether I like people or not though, I vote based on what I think the person can (or can't) do for the citizens. Trump is clearly a better businessman and more of a capitalist than is Biden...so he gets my vote. There's a lot of folks out there who will struggle to cast a vote for someone who they don't like as a person.
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