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Post by Tooln on Dec 22, 2020 13:51:07 GMT -6
Half ton would pull if you had the right trailer. I have a 2010 F-150 7500 lbs max trailer weight. With a good trailer, the tractor, loader and implement I'll be 12,000-14,000 lbs. That is a hard no. Bascially I'll be at the limit of a tandem two 7500 lbs axels when I get a new trailer and truck. I didn't think your tractor weighed that much. Looks like a 3/4 ton diesel is in line.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 22, 2020 13:53:54 GMT -6
I have a 2010 F-150 7500 lbs max trailer weight. With a good trailer, the tractor, loader and implement I'll be 12,000-14,000 lbs. That is a hard no. Bascially I'll be at the limit of a tandem two 7500 lbs axels when I get a new trailer and truck. I didn't think your tractor weighed that much. Looks like a 3/4 ton diesel is in line. Tractor 7500. Loader 1000 maybe more tires filled and wheel weights? 1000 Implement depending what I'm hauling 1000? Trailer itself? 2000? It adds up quick I would rather have gas for a lot of reasons. Thinking 3/4 ton ford with the new 7.3 L Godzilla motor that is an old school push rod motor. People are pulling a shit ton with it. Doesn't help I have a old tired truck to. My wife said I could either upgrade the truck or the tractor. The tractor was the easy choice for now. I will find ways to transport it for a year or so here.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 22, 2020 14:11:51 GMT -6
I will say. After I get the tractor here next year and clean up this wide up area of light work I may look for a smaller one. Or maybe not. Hard to say. The wider one I just bought will work really nice for the large area I have to clean up and that will be light duty stuff. I have some trees to cut down next week at the cabin and will be putting the grapple to work. Those are larger trees so will need to be careful Keeping in interest not damaging the FEL I understand why driving with the grapple parallel to the ground and if you hit something hard especially on the end of the grapple you could twist the frame which is exactly why Foggy said to got at it like a claw machine tipping it down. I get all that. Putting a larger tree with it hanging out more one side than the other scares me in terms of tipping over or twisting the frame. I was just watching some videos on you tube and machines much smaller than mine seemed to do things I'm not sure I would have attempted with my machine but that is just inexperience on my part I'm sure. Hard to know for a beginner where the limit is and I will be trying to keep most long logs I pick up centered. Any other words of wisdom? I know that you have some experience in operating this stuff....still.... Keep heavy loads low. Use plenty of ballast when operating a loader. I have fluid in my rears. Don't push on standing trees....lest they barber chair on you. <-----Do this long enough.....and it WILL get you. I used to push on a few "leaners".....but I avoid most of those these days. They have a way of getting to you. If any doubt...don't do it. Don't take a run at things like tree stumps with your bucket or grapple....thinking you will bowl them over or push them free - you wont. Wear your seatbelt. It only takes a one short length of wood smacking you in the head to kill you. Operating in timber will snag all kinds of unprotected wires and hoses....and more. Protect it with armor. I got slapped in the face by about a 1" sampling once......I think I was operating my rotary cutter in some heavy brush....and my eyeball turned black for over a week. Lucky I didn't lose that eye. Happens fast.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 22, 2020 14:17:23 GMT -6
I will say. After I get the tractor here next year and clean up this wide up area of light work I may look for a smaller one. Or maybe not. Hard to say. The wider one I just bought will work really nice for the large area I have to clean up and that will be light duty stuff. I have some trees to cut down next week at the cabin and will be putting the grapple to work. Those are larger trees so will need to be careful Keeping in interest not damaging the FEL I understand why driving with the grapple parallel to the ground and if you hit something hard especially on the end of the grapple you could twist the frame which is exactly why Foggy said to got at it like a claw machine tipping it down. I get all that. Putting a larger tree with it hanging out more one side than the other scares me in terms of tipping over or twisting the frame. I was just watching some videos on you tube and machines much smaller than mine seemed to do things I'm not sure I would have attempted with my machine but that is just inexperience on my part I'm sure. Hard to know for a beginner where the limit is and I will be trying to keep most long logs I pick up centered. Any other words of wisdom? I know that you have some experience in operating this stuff....still.... Keep heavy loads low. Use plenty of ballast when operating a loader. I have fluid in my rears. Don't push on standing trees....lest they barber chair on you. <-----Do this long enough.....and it WILL get you. I used to push on a few "leaners".....but I avoid most of those these days. They have a way of getting to you. If any doubt...don't do it. Don't take a run at things like tree stumps with your bucket or grapple....thinking you will bowl them over or push them free - you wont. Wear your seatbelt. It only takes a one short length of wood smacking you in the head to kill you. Operating in timber will snag all kinds of unprotected wires and hoses....and more. Protect it with armor. I got slapped in the face by about a 1" sampling once......I think I was operating my rotary cutter in some heavy brush....and my eyeball turned black for over a week. Lucky I didn't lose that eye. Happens fast. I am experience with a loader and pushing snow. Not so much a grapple. Yep I won't use it for pushing on standing trees. That is what a chain saw is for. LOL Agree on not getting a run on stuff and try and out force it. I won't be working in the timber at all really. My tractor doesn't really go in the timber. Down the trail sure. For example next week I will be dropping larger trees with the chain saw. Hook up to the draw bar with a clevis and drag them out in the open to the food plot. pick up with the grapple to cut up so you are not pinching saw bars and bending over. That is my plan. Moving big trees with the grapple I am the most worried about. I am going to have a fab shop make me a brush guard before next year when I do that clean up work I posted about earlier.
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 22, 2020 14:26:02 GMT -6
I didn't think your tractor weighed that much. Looks like a 3/4 ton diesel is in line. Tractor 7500. Loader 1000 maybe more tires filled and wheel weights? 1000 Implement depending what I'm hauling 1000? Trailer itself? 2000? It adds up quick I would rather have gas for a lot of reasons. Thinking 3/4 ton ford with the new 7.3 L Godzilla motor that is an old school push rod motor. People are pulling a shit ton with it. Doesn't help I have a old tired truck to. My wife said I could either upgrade the truck or the tractor. The tractor was the easy choice for now. I will find ways to transport it for a year or so here. Brad with that kind of weight I think you will be required to have a DOT number. Might be better served to just hire some one to haul when you need tractor moved. I know I am close with my tractor weight wise.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 22, 2020 14:31:31 GMT -6
Tractor 7500. Loader 1000 maybe more tires filled and wheel weights? 1000 Implement depending what I'm hauling 1000? Trailer itself? 2000? It adds up quick I would rather have gas for a lot of reasons. Thinking 3/4 ton ford with the new 7.3 L Godzilla motor that is an old school push rod motor. People are pulling a shit ton with it. Doesn't help I have a old tired truck to. My wife said I could either upgrade the truck or the tractor. The tractor was the easy choice for now. I will find ways to transport it for a year or so here. Brad with that kind of weight I think you will be required to have a DOT number. Might be better served to just hire some one to haul when you need tractor moved. I know I am close with my tractor weight wise. I have people that will help me move it. The only problem is it will be on their schedule of course which blows. Just have to be a little patient. So do people with their big ass 5th wheel travel trailers that weight 15,000 lbs need a DOT number too for personal use?
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 22, 2020 15:43:07 GMT -6
Brad with that kind of weight I think you will be required to have a DOT number. Might be better served to just hire some one to haul when you need tractor moved. I know I am close with my tractor weight wise. I have people that will help me move it. The only problem is it will be on their schedule of course which blows. Just have to be a little patient. So do people with their big ass 5th wheel travel trailers that weight 15,000 lbs need a DOT number too for personal use? There is an exemption for RV's. !0,000 pounds combination is the magic number and that goes by GVWR of both the truck and trailer. You could have nothing on trailer but if the GVWR of truck and trailer exceeds 10,000 you are suppose to have a DOT number.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 23, 2020 10:45:42 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Dec 23, 2020 10:47:32 GMT -6
2 for 1??
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 23, 2020 11:01:03 GMT -6
No Brad picked up my grapple for me. I picked up Brad's pallet forks for him. Going to meet Brad at his place and do a switch.
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Post by biglakebass on Dec 23, 2020 11:26:46 GMT -6
NICE!
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Post by Tooln on Dec 23, 2020 11:30:51 GMT -6
No Brad picked up my grapple for me. I picked up Brad's pallet forks for him. Going to meet Brad at his place and do a switch. Early Xmas for you guys.
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Post by kabic on Dec 23, 2020 11:46:17 GMT -6
Most people with 5th wheel trailers use farm plates?
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Post by Foggy on Dec 23, 2020 11:46:51 GMT -6
Found some good values right there. ^^^
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Post by Foggy on Dec 23, 2020 11:50:18 GMT -6
'Ya know.....looking at the back side of those grapples......I had something similar. And I welded a couple of 1/8" x 1" strap irons on the back side of the bucket. Does not impede vision much...but keeps limbs and debris from coming through and into my tractor's grill and headlights...etc. I had to learn this the hard way on my first tractor. Spend some time preventing radiator and grille damage....it gets expensive fast. Just sayin'.
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