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Post by honker on Dec 6, 2020 20:20:42 GMT -6
I have Not done that. Never even thought about doing that. Still not considering it. You are on a tear today. FKN Biden got you fired up?
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 6, 2020 20:35:17 GMT -6
I've never planted a rub tree, but it would take a special tree to take an annual beating and still survive. The one tree/shrub that comes to mind that might take the beating would be a shrub willow. They are favored for rubs and they can take a beating and sprout back. Maybe plant 2 somewhat nearby and cage them on alternate years to give them a chance to recover.
I think I should probably do that the more I think about it.
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 7, 2020 1:38:31 GMT -6
So if I already have natural licking branches and scrape lines what would I gain by creating my own? I have stands on those trails. Once the rut kicked in those trails went dead. Placement exactly where you want a deer to stand. I forgot about that part of the equation. That part would be more crucial if I were bow hunting. I’d just like to see them. Lol
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Post by smsmith on Dec 7, 2020 8:24:22 GMT -6
Placement exactly where you want a deer to stand. I forgot about that part of the equation. That part would be more crucial if I were bow hunting. I’d just like to see them. Lol A deer standing broadside just where you want them to stand doesn't offend me with a firearm either edited to add...as far as seeing 'em goes, I keep thinking you need to somehow influence their travel routes. When you have 1000s of acres that are all pretty much the same habitat, making yours somehow different is important. Deer here wandered all over the place when I bought it, now their travel routes are much more condensed.
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Post by Tooln on Dec 7, 2020 9:14:47 GMT -6
When I had my land I'd cut a shit tree that was about 3" diameter and put it out in the plot. I'd dig a hole about 3' deep and put it in. I'd trim branch's so the first were about 4' from the ground. It was more of a licking branch setup than a rub. But it was used as both. Every deer that entered the plot would visit and lick it. Great to put a camera on. One year I had one that sprouted new leaves the next spring. It never lived but I was surprised it had new leaves the next spring.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 7, 2020 12:08:02 GMT -6
One thing that has kind of ticked me off when I'm assembling these set ups is that I forget where I've seen large diameter grape vines growing. I need to put some flagging tape on a few so I can find them in late summer/early fall. Just last week I came across one vine that was pushing 3" at grow level with many "fingers" of vines coming off the base. Those fingers were 1-2" at the base and tapered down to narrower diameters a few dozen feet away. Just a monster grape vine (for here anyway)
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Post by jbird on Dec 7, 2020 13:52:34 GMT -6
I used to put rub/scrape trees in or near plots and had some luck but nothing to write home about. What I would do i3 I would get a 2 or 3 feet long piece of heavy walled PVC pipe that is large enough that the ID will allow you to put the trunk of a sapling or the like down into. I put a hole in it so I can insert a rod to act as a handle so I can pull the PVC out of the ground. I drive the PVC into the ground and pull it out and remove the dirt inside the pipe. Then I reset the pipe in the ground. Cut you tree/sapling and place in the PVC as far down as you can. I then use wood screws and go from the outside of the pipe and into the sapling/tree several times. This allows me to replace the tree if I want or even remove the PVC altogether or even leave it without hear of it hurting anything. I have had more luck using this for scrapes with rope or vines than for rubbing thus far. And the more out in the open the better in a plot. I like a fresh cut grape vine as the sap will attract the deer and then the deer take over. Location seems to be more of the key than anything from what I have found. I get more use of them in the woods along trails than I do in plots.
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Post by MN Slick on Dec 8, 2020 6:10:30 GMT -6
We used "plant" shingle oaks and got 2 years out of them before they'd break down. Pain in the ass to harvest and haul trees so this season we cut some hedge and cedar for posts and attached leafy limbs and vines to them. They seemed to prefer the leafy limbs over the grape vines but both worked. They do rub them a bit but mainly work the ground and limbs.
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Post by Tooln on Dec 8, 2020 7:51:27 GMT -6
One thing I forgot to mention. When I planted licking/rubbing trees in the plot. Every deer that entered the plot visited it. I've tried the same on a trail and plot edge but never got as good of results.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 8, 2020 15:20:34 GMT -6
I have some small to medium sized basswood trees. Next year I will cut them for rub trees. They love to rub basswood.
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