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Post by Foggy on May 7, 2021 12:50:21 GMT -6
Been thinking on my forage collards a bit. Getting back to MN next week and will need to get serious about food plots. I've had very low success with planting brassica into my beans in mid summer. Dont work in my sand.
My question: What do you think about broadcasting collards into a plot along with some radish and PTT......and then dragging and packing as normal. THEN.....use my two row planter to put rows of soybeans into the mixture above. Will the beans out grow the collards or visa versa? Would waiting on one or the other seeding attempts work better?
In fall I'd be left with the collards, radish, PTT crops......after the deer have devoured my beans. I'd likely plant in early / mid June.
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Post by benmnwi on May 7, 2021 13:03:07 GMT -6
I've never planted collards, but I know that soybeans don't do well with weed pressure and if you did the soybean/collard combo you couldn't spray round-up. I think you would end up with a combo of weeds, spindly soybeans and brassicas.
I think you would get more pounds of deer food with a strip of soybeans alone next to a separate strip of brassicas.
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Post by benmnwi on May 7, 2021 13:18:23 GMT -6
This year I bought some full season brassica seed for the first time and I'm going to use those between my pumpkin rows. Last year I had more weed pressure in my pumpkin patch than normal, so I'm going to try using a full season brassica for improved weed control. I'll spray the planting area, plant pumpkins and brassicas on the same day around June 1st. Eventually the pumpkins will take over the whole area, but it would be nice to have a little late season deer food growing under the pumpkins rather than the weeds that popped up last year.
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Post by sd51555 on May 7, 2021 14:38:27 GMT -6
Been thinking on my forage collards a bit. Getting back to MN next week and will need to get serious about food plots. I've had very low success with planting brassica into my beans in mid summer. Dont work in my sand. My question: What do you think about broadcasting collards into a plot along with some radish and PTT......and then dragging and packing as normal. THEN.....use my two row planter to put rows of soybeans into the mixture above. Will the beans out grow the collards or visa versa? Would waiting on one or the other seeding attempts work better? In fall I'd be left with the collards, radish, PTT crops......after the deer have devoured my beans. I'd likely plant in early / mid June. Remind me, can you get broadcasted rye to go on your soil?
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Post by Foggy on May 7, 2021 16:24:37 GMT -6
Been thinking on my forage collards a bit. Getting back to MN next week and will need to get serious about food plots. I've had very low success with planting brassica into my beans in mid summer. Dont work in my sand. My question: What do you think about broadcasting collards into a plot along with some radish and PTT......and then dragging and packing as normal. THEN.....use my two row planter to put rows of soybeans into the mixture above. Will the beans out grow the collards or visa versa? Would waiting on one or the other seeding attempts work better? In fall I'd be left with the collards, radish, PTT crops......after the deer have devoured my beans. I'd likely plant in early / mid June. Remind me, can you get broadcasted rye to go on your soil? Yep no problem with cereal rye.
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Post by badgerfowl on May 7, 2021 16:44:09 GMT -6
This year I bought some full season brassica seed for the first time and I'm going to use those between my pumpkin rows. Last year I had more weed pressure in my pumpkin patch than normal, so I'm going to try using a full season brassica for improved weed control. I'll spray the planting area, plant pumpkins and brassicas on the same day around June 1st. Eventually the pumpkins will take over the whole area, but it would be nice to have a little late season deer food growing under the pumpkins rather than the weeds that popped up last year. I’m trying to figure out when and how I want to plant my pumpkins and couple other early summer things like my EW screen and a game bird mix from deer creek. Everything says after last frost. I plan on tilling. Not sure if it pays to spray first or till twice or just till and plant. I was thinking plant Memorial Day weekend but am itching to push it.
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Post by sd51555 on May 7, 2021 16:46:29 GMT -6
Remind me, can you get broadcasted rye to go on your soil? Yep no problem with cereal rye. Did you get the side shift kit on your flail mower?
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Post by smsmith on May 7, 2021 16:48:23 GMT -6
This year I bought some full season brassica seed for the first time and I'm going to use those between my pumpkin rows. Last year I had more weed pressure in my pumpkin patch than normal, so I'm going to try using a full season brassica for improved weed control. I'll spray the planting area, plant pumpkins and brassicas on the same day around June 1st. Eventually the pumpkins will take over the whole area, but it would be nice to have a little late season deer food growing under the pumpkins rather than the weeds that popped up last year. I’m trying to figure out when and how I want to plant my pumpkins and couple other early summer things like my EW screen and a game bird mix from deer creek. Everything says after last frost. I plan on tilling. Not sure if it pays to spray first or till twice or just till and plant. I was thinking plant Memorial Day weekend but am itching to push it. Me too. I know I should wait, but it's getting really tempting.
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Post by Foggy on May 7, 2021 16:49:45 GMT -6
Yep no problem with cereal rye. Did you get the side shift kit on your flail mower? Yep......I can shift about 18" to the right. Shifting it over here boss. What does that have to do with collards? (I'll wait )
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Post by sd51555 on May 7, 2021 17:50:27 GMT -6
Did you get the side shift kit on your flail mower? Yep......I can shift about 18" to the right. Shifting it over here boss. What does that have to do with collards? (I'll wait ) Speak highly of me when you share the genius of this with others. No collards this year. Switch to rye this fall. let the rye get to green and full head stage in early june. Take your flail mower across it and cut about 2' high. Then go back with your side by side and blow on your collards and beans. Then go back and flail it once more, this time 8" from the ground. Leave the stems to poke them bastards in the eyes if they go after the beans and collards before they get up outta the straw. Or, weld up a (Jebus, listen to me...) pole to hold your herd seeder up high so you get above the rye, and drive through your 5' tall rye with your side by side and get that seed out there. Then flail it all down on top of it. You've got all the gadgets to make this happen. You'd be a habitat legend. "Dude put his seeder on a damn pole." You'd still have $15,000 left over, even after buying the naming rights to Stab camp pond 2, from not having to buy that notill drill.
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Post by sd51555 on May 7, 2021 17:54:30 GMT -6
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Post by benmnwi on May 7, 2021 20:52:32 GMT -6
I’m trying to figure out when and how I want to plant my pumpkins and couple other early summer things like my EW screen and a game bird mix from deer creek. Everything says after last frost. I plan on tilling. Not sure if it pays to spray first or till twice or just till and plant. I was thinking plant Memorial Day weekend but am itching to push it. Me too. I know I should wait, but it's getting really tempting. Plant pumpkins on June 1st. They like warm soil temps and they don't like frost. My friend who plants pumpkins to sell told me that is the date to plant pumpkin seeds and it has worked great for me every year.
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Post by Foggy on May 7, 2021 21:59:57 GMT -6
Yep......I can shift about 18" to the right. Shifting it over here boss. What does that have to do with collards? (I'll wait ) Speak highly of me when you share the genius of this with others. No collards this year. Switch to rye this fall. let the rye get to green and full head stage in early june. Take your flail mower across it and cut about 2' high. Then go back with your side by side and blow on your collards and beans. Then go back and flail it once more, this time 8" from the ground. Leave the stems to poke them bastards in the eyes if they go after the beans and collards before they get up outta the straw. Or, weld up a (Jebus, listen to me...) pole to hold your herd seeder up high so you get above the rye, and drive through your 5' tall rye with your side by side and get that seed out there. Then flail it all down on top of it. You've got all the gadgets to make this happen. You'd be a habitat legend. "Dude put his seeder on a damn pole." You'd still have $15,000 left over, even after buying the naming rights to Stab camp pond 2, from not having to buy that notill drill. So the short rye stubble is gonna protect the seeds that wont germinate because they are lying on top of my sand. Sure......makes perfect sense to someone with different soils. In my sand the seed needs to be covered.....or it's toast. POSSIBLY I could cultipack or drag over the rye.....but I am not sure this would serve much purpose.
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Post by Sandbur on May 8, 2021 4:17:09 GMT -6
This year I bought some full season brassica seed for the first time and I'm going to use those between my pumpkin rows. Last year I had more weed pressure in my pumpkin patch than normal, so I'm going to try using a full season brassica for improved weed control. I'll spray the planting area, plant pumpkins and brassicas on the same day around June 1st. Eventually the pumpkins will take over the whole area, but it would be nice to have a little late season deer food growing under the pumpkins rather than the weeds that popped up last year. What is in the full season brassica mix?
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Post by sd51555 on May 8, 2021 5:40:28 GMT -6
Speak highly of me when you share the genius of this with others. No collards this year. Switch to rye this fall. let the rye get to green and full head stage in early june. Take your flail mower across it and cut about 2' high. Then go back with your side by side and blow on your collards and beans. Then go back and flail it once more, this time 8" from the ground. Leave the stems to poke them bastards in the eyes if they go after the beans and collards before they get up outta the straw. Or, weld up a (Jebus, listen to me...) pole to hold your herd seeder up high so you get above the rye, and drive through your 5' tall rye with your side by side and get that seed out there. Then flail it all down on top of it. You've got all the gadgets to make this happen. You'd be a habitat legend. "Dude put his seeder on a damn pole." You'd still have $15,000 left over, even after buying the naming rights to Stab camp pond 2, from not having to buy that notill drill. So the short rye stubble is gonna protect the seeds that wont germinate because they are lying on top of my sand. Sure......makes perfect sense to someone with different soils. In my sand the seed needs to be covered.....or it's toast. POSSIBLY I could cultipack or drag over the rye.....but I am not sure this would serve much purpose. Cover it with rye straw.
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