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Post by benmnwi on Dec 15, 2020 15:06:47 GMT -6
Glyphosate kills the weeds in my fields, so RR beans work for me. I plant the more expensive varieties recommended to me by the local seed dealer for my fields that I had picked to sell. I use the cheap $20/bag year old seeds for my deer food plots and when planted side by side the past 2 years you couldn't tell which section was the expensive new seed and which section was the year old food plot seed. I agree with good growing conditions and no dieses or bugs or stuff they will all grow the same. But get bugs and a rough growing weather or when you are farming marginal ground the improved traits can and will help when everything isn't perfect. Down here the food plot beans come in the original packaging and I can look up the traits on the seed supplier's website if I was interested. With that seed you just get whatever they have left over though, but the traits on the year old seed and the traits on the new stuff were the same this year. The same goes for the year old corn seed - this year I got two 50 pound bags of corn seed for free when I stopped by to buy a bunch of oat seed. That corn seed came with the labels and I actually looked those up to make sure I was getting grain seed rather than sileage seed. It worked great. I also save pumpkin seeds when we carve pumpkins for my kids so I don't have to spend $20 for the pumpkin seed online, so I can be cheap. In my mind I'm better off saving the seed money and spending it on extra fertilizer.
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Post by JB on Dec 15, 2020 21:48:45 GMT -6
Here marestail has come on strong in no-till fields. Round up resistant pigweed is also showing up along with some resistant water hemp. Extend beans have been very popular although there are a lot of drift complaints. Enlist beans seem to be a safer option. Usually they work with round up and liberty also, so you have some options. Mixing up your chemical program besides just roundup ready corn and beans makes a ton of sense. A good pre-emerge residual also helps a lot. If you don’t have problems yet, you probably will in the near future. I know guys that thought they had high deer browse because of short beans all summer. Turns out the weed pressure was just high enough to allow the deer to stay ahead of the new growth.
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 15, 2020 23:49:51 GMT -6
I'll be planting beans mid summer if I can get my dirt work done. By that time, I won't be worrying about weed control. It's probably going to end up being a hodge podge of everything, but primarily beans, oats, and forage collards. Also seeded then to perennial clover and chicory and rye. Are you throwing , mowing and praying for those beans?
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Post by sd51555 on Dec 16, 2020 0:55:31 GMT -6
I'll be planting beans mid summer if I can get my dirt work done. By that time, I won't be worrying about weed control. It's probably going to end up being a hodge podge of everything, but primarily beans, oats, and forage collards. Also seeded then to perennial clover and chicory and rye. Are you throwing , mowing and praying for those beans? Will have roughed up dirt from all the terraforming. Plan to drag, throw, pack.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 17, 2020 10:27:33 GMT -6
Here marestail has come on strong in no-till fields. Round up resistant pigweed is also showing up along with some resistant water hemp. Extend beans have been very popular although there are a lot of drift complaints. Enlist beans seem to be a safer option. Usually they work with round up and liberty also, so you have some options. Mixing up your chemical program besides just roundup ready corn and beans makes a ton of sense. A good pre-emerge residual also helps a lot. If you don’t have problems yet, you probably will in the near future. I know guys that thought they had high deer browse because of short beans all summer. Turns out the weed pressure was just high enough to allow the deer to stay ahead of the new growth. Lets discuss "pre-emerge residual". What should I be looking at and when does it get applied in conventual till?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 18, 2020 3:08:18 GMT -6
I sell pallets of Sonic and Authority First soybean herbicide in mn and scony. Spray right before or right after planting and get full season control on some tough weeds. At about $14/acre. Problem with most good pre emerge herbicides is they are $400 a jug. None of you guys will spend that for food plotting. The Enlist trait combined with the Liberty trait or Glyphosate trait is very effective on some tough weeds we are seeing in our area of mn. And for guys that won’t put down a pre, soon it will be the only way to control tough weeds in your soybean plots. We sell straight Roundup beans starting at $30-35 a bag, Enlist beans start at $42 so you will spend some money for the E-3 trait.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 18, 2020 7:22:49 GMT -6
I sell pallets of Sonic and Authority First soybean herbicide in mn and scony. Spray right before or right after planting and get full season control on some tough weeds. At about $14/acre. Problem with most good pre emerge herbicides is they are $400 a jug. None of you guys will spend that for food plotting. The Enlist trait combined with the Liberty trait or Glyphosate trait is very effective on some tough weeds we are seeing in our area of mn. And for guys that won’t put down a pre, soon it will be the only way to control tough weeds in your soybean plots. We sell straight Roundup beans starting at $30-35 a bag, Enlist beans start at $42 so you will spend some money for the E-3 trait. So will Sonic and Authority work with the just the regular Roundup beans or do you need Enlist seed to use the Sonic and Authority? How far acreage wise does a $400 gallon jug of the really good pre emerge stuff go?
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Post by badbrad on Dec 18, 2020 7:34:57 GMT -6
Off-topic of the thread but is there a affordable pre-emerge spray for corn?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 18, 2020 8:54:00 GMT -6
I sell pallets of Sonic and Authority First soybean herbicide in mn and scony. Spray right before or right after planting and get full season control on some tough weeds. At about $14/acre. Problem with most good pre emerge herbicides is they are $400 a jug. None of you guys will spend that for food plotting. The Enlist trait combined with the Liberty trait or Glyphosate trait is very effective on some tough weeds we are seeing in our area of mn. And for guys that won’t put down a pre, soon it will be the only way to control tough weeds in your soybean plots. We sell straight Roundup beans starting at $30-35 a bag, Enlist beans start at $42 so you will spend some money for the E-3 trait. So will Sonic and Authority work with the just the regular Roundup beans or do you need Enlist seed to use the Sonic and Authority? How far acreage wise does a $400 gallon jug of the really good pre emerge stuff go? Sonic comes in 120 oz jugs dry flowable. Authority first comes in 160 oz jugs of dry flowable. Use rate is 5-6 oz per acre and Both cost about $2.40/oz. Can use on any soybeans.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 18, 2020 8:56:47 GMT -6
Off-topic of the thread but is there a affordable pre-emerge spray for corn? A decent pre for corn is Surestart II at $10/acre. Not full season control but decent and cheap in the farming world.
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 18, 2020 11:48:26 GMT -6
So will Sonic and Authority work with the just the regular Roundup beans or do you need Enlist seed to use the Sonic and Authority? How far acreage wise does a $400 gallon jug of the really good pre emerge stuff go? Sonic comes in 120 oz jugs dry flowable. Authority first comes in 160 oz jugs of dry flowable. Use rate is 5-6 oz per acre and Both cost about $2.40/oz. Can use on any soybeans. If the beans fail or get wiped out, can you plant a late summer/early fall crop or will the Pre-emerge have effects on the later plantings ?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 19, 2020 1:31:41 GMT -6
Sonic comes in 120 oz jugs dry flowable. Authority first comes in 160 oz jugs of dry flowable. Use rate is 5-6 oz per acre and Both cost about $2.40/oz. Can use on any soybeans. If the beans fail or get wiped out, can you plant a late summer/early fall crop or will the Pre-emerge have effects on the later plantings ? Depends on which pre you use. Depends on what rate you use. Depends on your soil, Depends on the weather. Depends on what seed you are planting back. Depends on when you are planting back.
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