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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 1, 2021 14:47:15 GMT -6
We have a lot of natural grit. I know I lose a few pheasants to road hunters though. One guy told me he shot 3 roosters off the gravel road by my farm? I said seriously?
Not that I didn’t road hunt back in the day!🙂
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Post by batman on Jan 1, 2021 14:54:11 GMT -6
My buddy up north was pretty proud of the pheasants he had on his place so me and the kid drove by his driveway one day and threw 3 game farm birds out the window at the end of his driveway. He thought they all got hit by cars. He was pretty upset.
I had his dad let him know the shenanigans so the birds would not go to waste.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 1, 2021 15:09:32 GMT -6
I can't keep up with your guys's regulations and who can or can't do what. It's much simpler here; buy a tag, hunt in the appropriate season with the appropriate weapon. Don't be stupid. I assume the mineral and feeding bans are tied to possible disease spread. SD posted this and now I'm on the verge of running to town and buying a bag or two of poultry grit and oyster shell to put stations out for the quail. Not sure I see a "need" to build a station to keep sand dry, but dumping some bags out can't hurt. A healthy flock is sure to be a productive flock. With that said I'm still trying to figure out how to avoid soybean toxicity in the quail when the main crop grown is beans. Government knows everything and needs to tell citizens how to live their lives I follow the rules and regulations that make sense and ignore the rest
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Post by kooch on Jan 1, 2021 15:27:38 GMT -6
For the record: I follow each and every rule and regulation to the letter of the law, or the spirit, whichever is more stringent. Good citizens bow to every whim of the government.
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Post by Catscratch on Jan 1, 2021 15:47:59 GMT -6
Just how serious are they in enforcing their rules? Do they have a large enough workforce to catch the average Joe throwing mineral out in the boonies? I ticked some guys off once. They said KS needs to outlaw baiting due to the CWD scare. I didn't support the idea. They thought I was uncaring about the herd and crazy for wanting to destroy it. My stance was why create a rule you can't enforce? KS is short on GWs, there's only like 1 for every 2 counties. Already short handed and can't have a strong enough presence to do their jobs effectively, why throw more at them that can't regulate. Doesn't take long for the average guy to think it's a joke every time an unregulated rule gets shoved on them.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 1, 2021 15:57:32 GMT -6
Just how serious are they in enforcing their rules? Do they have a large enough workforce to catch the average Joe throwing mineral out in the boonies? I ticked some guys off once. They said KS needs to outlaw baiting due to the CWD scare. I didn't support the idea. They thought I was uncaring about the herd and crazy for wanting to destroy it. My stance was why create a rule you can't enforce? KS is short on GWs, there's only like 1 for every 2 counties. Already short handed and can't have a strong enough presence to do their jobs effectively, why throw more at them that can't regulate. Doesn't take long for the average guy to think it's a joke every time an unregulated rule gets shoved on them. I don't pay much attention anymore, but for many years illegal baiting/feeding was THE number one most ticketed offense in MN and it was the same for many years when I lived in WI. Can they catch most people doing it? Not even close. I'd guess they catch and ticket less than 10% of the rule breakers each year. FTR...I do not support people dumping piles of corn to hunt over where it is illegal. I also do not equate a salt/mineral lick to a pile of corn.
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Post by kooch on Jan 1, 2021 16:06:38 GMT -6
I've found corn in the stomach of nearly every deer I've ever shot, and they've all been in MN. I've never baited. It's only about a dozen. But still.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 1, 2021 16:10:44 GMT -6
I've found corn in the stomach of nearly every deer I've ever shot, and they've all been in MN. I've never baited. It's only about a dozen. But still. Every deer I shot at my folks' old place in central WI had a gut full of corn. There wasn't a corn field within 5 miles.
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Post by batman on Jan 1, 2021 16:12:16 GMT -6
Cornfucious say 'Aint cheating aint winning.'
When your neighbors pour corn and you dont, you better have a pretty kick ass hand.
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Post by Catscratch on Jan 1, 2021 16:18:29 GMT -6
Just how serious are they in enforcing their rules? Do they have a large enough workforce to catch the average Joe throwing mineral out in the boonies? I ticked some guys off once. They said KS needs to outlaw baiting due to the CWD scare. I didn't support the idea. They thought I was uncaring about the herd and crazy for wanting to destroy it. My stance was why create a rule you can't enforce? KS is short on GWs, there's only like 1 for every 2 counties. Already short handed and can't have a strong enough presence to do their jobs effectively, why throw more at them that can't regulate. Doesn't take long for the average guy to think it's a joke every time an unregulated rule gets shoved on them. I don't pay much attention anymore, but for many years illegal baiting/feeding was THE number one most ticketed offense in MN and it was the same for many years when I lived in WI. Can they catch most people doing it? Not even close. I'd guess they catch and ticket less than 10% of the rule breakers each year. FTR...I do not support people dumping piles of corn to hunt over where it is illegal. I also do not equate a salt/mineral lick to a pile of corn. I would bet most deer shot in KS are over a pile or a feeder. I can see 3 different feeders, on three different properties, within a quarter mile of each other. Outfitters advertise by pounds placed per stand per season. For a month every fall you can see trucks with bags of corn stacked high. It's prevalent. I like to feed birds with milo. Whenever I go to the CO-OP to buy a couple bags they tell me everybody else buys corn for hunting.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 1, 2021 16:37:30 GMT -6
Similar arguments have been had by men greater than us.
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Post by kooch on Jan 1, 2021 16:46:34 GMT -6
Those are men?
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 1, 2021 16:53:32 GMT -6
It took balls to be that awesome in the 80’s.
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 1, 2021 17:31:11 GMT -6
I’ve never see corn in any deer I’ve shot. Usually full of acorns or grass. I know an abutter (non Hunter) feeds deer grain regularly and I’m sure that has an affect on our sightings. I haven’t figured out if Martin hunts any more. I know he killed a bear this fall that kept trying to get into his cabin.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 1, 2021 17:35:11 GMT -6
They took David Bowie's androgyny to another level
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