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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 7:06:21 GMT -6
True, but when "authority" lies and/or obfuscates repeatedly to the public it sure makes it difficult to trust them. When the Liberal media is allowed to continuously lie to fill their agenda, people that have authority and are not on the media’s side will always be liars whether they are or aren’t. It aint only the liberals tho.....the Donald said things iike injecting Clorox in your blood to combat Covid.....and he has that way of bloviating allot of chit. Not saying he is all wet by any stretch.....but many conservatives have crossed a few lines.....just as the liberals have. It's all like watching the WWF now....all hyperbole and smoke and mirrors. |
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 4, 2021 7:20:48 GMT -6
When the Liberal media is allowed to continuously lie to fill their agenda, people that have authority and are not on the media’s side will always be liars whether they are or aren’t. It aint only the liberals tho.....the Donald said things iike injecting Clorox in your blood to combat Covid.....and he has that way of bloviating allot of chit. Not saying he is all wet by any stretch.....but many conservatives have crossed a few lines.....just as the liberals have. It's all like watching the WWF now....all hyperbole and smoke and mirrors. So when you and the media take something like that out of context on how he said that is exactly what I am talking about. Lol |
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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 7:28:50 GMT -6
It aint only the liberals tho.....the Donald said things iike injecting Clorox in your blood to combat Covid.....and he has that way of bloviating allot of chit. Not saying he is all wet by any stretch.....but many conservatives have crossed a few lines.....just as the liberals have. It's all like watching the WWF now....all hyperbole and smoke and mirrors. So when you and the media take something like that out of context on how he said that is exactly what I am talking about. Lol Grin....yep....but to get it all unraveled and the truth to be known....is like understanding one of those herbicide labels. By the time you understand it.....you have lost all interest. Spin baby Spin! Even the freaking "fact checkers" can't be trusted. I think they booted most of what I post from Facebook. Sad little basturds. |
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Post by smsmith on Aug 4, 2021 8:13:19 GMT -6
I will say that whether you watch CNN, CNBC, Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax....the advice given by every Dr. I've heard talk is to get the vaccine. I tend to think doing so is probably the correct move for most folks over 50 or so. Under 50 and I personally wouldn't be spending anytime thinking about it (unless I had some other major health issues).
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Post by buckvelvet on Aug 4, 2021 8:16:17 GMT -6
You guys are right, I am NOT a conspiracy theorist, when these sons of bitches are actually fact checked with real hard facts they politicians or media still talk out the sides of their mouth and lie the American people. I just will never trust anything reported on TV, the net, or social media ever again. These people all have a sick end game and I just can't stand by & let it happen.
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Post by Freeborn on Aug 4, 2021 8:32:22 GMT -6
Last night was national night out and our culdesac got together and had a nice evening. Two of my neighbor are doctors and they were discussing COVID and thought people should get the first 2 vaccination but not the new one. They indicated if you got the Pfizer shot 6 months go you are still 88% effective and they thought it better to now catch COVID and let your immune system work then get another shot. They do recommend all ages get the first round of vaccinations as it will reduce how ill people get. They also indicated everyone at some point in the country will get COVID and there is nothing they can do about it. Like influenza it is here to stay so you need to ask yourself if you want to catch COVID with or without being vaccinated.
I see the COVID shot like the influenza shot, there is no guarantee you won't catch either but you will probably be less sick and not dead with the vaccination.
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Post by buckvelvet on Aug 4, 2021 10:38:30 GMT -6
Last night was national night out and our culdesac got together and had a nice evening. Two of my neighbor are doctors and they were discussing COVID and thought people should get the first 2 vaccination but not the new one. They indicated if you got the Pfizer shot 6 months go you are still 88% effective and they thought it better to now catch COVID and let your immune system work then get another shot. They do recommend all ages get the first round of vaccinations as it will reduce how ill people get. They also indicated everyone at some point in the country will get COVID and there is nothing they can do about it. Like influenza it is here to stay so you need to ask yourself if you want to catch COVID with or without being vaccinated. I see the COVID shot like the influenza shot, there is no guarantee you won't catch either but you will probably be less sick and not dead with the vaccination. The problem is COVID affects ALL people differently, no different than the FLU. I had COVID at Christmas time this year, I was drinking coffee and all the sudden my smell & taste had the mute button hit, stayed that way for 3 weeks. Otherwise I got no other symptoms from COVID. I do not need a vaccine for something like that, the next guy, maybe he does need a vaccine but that his choice no different than my own.
The rest of this social pressure is all fake propaganda for reasons no one will say out loud.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 11:33:20 GMT -6
^. good logical discussion. Why cannot our "leaders" converse like such?
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 4, 2021 11:36:52 GMT -6
Last night was national night out and our culdesac got together and had a nice evening. Two of my neighbor are doctors and they were discussing COVID and thought people should get the first 2 vaccination but not the new one. They indicated if you got the Pfizer shot 6 months go you are still 88% effective and they thought it better to now catch COVID and let your immune system work then get another shot. They do recommend all ages get the first round of vaccinations as it will reduce how ill people get. They also indicated everyone at some point in the country will get COVID and there is nothing they can do about it. Like influenza it is here to stay so you need to ask yourself if you want to catch COVID with or without being vaccinated. I see the COVID shot like the influenza shot, there is no guarantee you won't catch either but you will probably be less sick and not dead with the vaccination. That makes me wonder about the??30% of the country that all ready had covid. My doctor did not feel vaccine was necessary after we lost taste and smell. Positive test results were around 12-15 % last time I looked. But estimates are that another equal sized group did not test. My wife and I didn’t test. |
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 4, 2021 11:40:03 GMT -6
I will say that whether you watch CNN, CNBC, Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax....the advice given by every Dr. I've heard talk is to get the vaccine. I tend to think doing so is probably the correct move for most folks over 50 or so. Under 50 and I personally wouldn't be spending anytime thinking about it (unless I had some other major health issues). . I suspect most doctors are afraid to publicly say to NOT get the vaccine. They have employers and managers who would put immense pressure on them. Everyone needs to talk to their own doctor if they have concerns. There are those who probably should not get the vaccine. |
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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 11:46:57 GMT -6
I will say that whether you watch CNN, CNBC, Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax....the advice given by every Dr. I've heard talk is to get the vaccine. I tend to think doing so is probably the correct move for most folks over 50 or so. Under 50 and I personally wouldn't be spending anytime thinking about it (unless I had some other major health issues). . I suspect most doctors are afraid to publicly say to NOT get the vaccine. They have employers and managers who would put immense pressure on them. Everyone needs to talk to their own doctor if they have concerns. There are those who probably should not get the vaccine. ^. This is the huge issue for so many Doctors. If you go against the "conventional wisdom" of Dr Fauci and the CDC......you will get labeled as a crackpot and may lose allot of credibility for not marching to the beat. That Dr Jensen (that may run for Governor) made several videos and spoke the truth.....and the liberal media was all over him and discredited him like crazy. Not the way medicine should work. Never has been a one size fits all....and never will be in health care. And that is what that Dr said to me in my wife's hospital room. She was livid AGAINST kids getting vaccinated on a national scale. |
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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 12:04:49 GMT -6
^^. Remember when the goal was to "flatten the curve"?
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 4, 2021 12:10:44 GMT -6
^^. Remember when the goal was to "flatten the curve"? As vaccine breakthroughs occur, and new variants keep popping up, that might be as good as it gets. Flatten the curve. There are multiple strains of corona in cattle and plenty of confusion on which vaccine is best. Lots of ‘experts’ out there. |
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 4, 2021 12:11:19 GMT -6
^^. Remember when the goal was to "flatten the curve"? That was a believable slogan at the time. We're way past that one now so they have to sell something else. They have a blueprint with climate change. It was global warming, it was global cooling, it was a lot of things. As people loose interest and the current matra looses credibility they change slogans. What's hurt them is themselves. Even if they did tell the truth now a huge part of the population can't believe them and a small but growing part of the population won't hear it as they quit listening. Can only throw so many temper-tantrums before the adults just walk away. |
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Post by biglakebass on Aug 4, 2021 12:12:06 GMT -6
An interesting corner case is John Rahm, PGA golfer.
Got covid 2 months ago, had to drop from a tournament he was leading going into the last day.
he got vaccinated since then....
Then gets covid AGAIN and had to drop from the Olympics.
Vaccine is fixing everything clearly. Get vaccinated everyone.
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