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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 18, 2021 14:12:52 GMT -6
Which Pine is better overall in Minnesota? This is mostly sandy loam soil. I think I have tried them all, not sure I can verify which is which. Scotch pine has grown pretty well for me, but they get rubbed so bad.
What is your overall favorite?
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 18, 2021 14:25:07 GMT -6
Lets take a tangent on this topic already..... why is it that scotches get rubbed and tore up so much more than others? I have seen the same thing.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 18, 2021 14:35:38 GMT -6
Lets take a tangent on this topic already..... why is it that scotches get rubbed and tore up so much more than others? I have seen the same thing. I have no idea, but I have to cage them now. I have seen Norway pine grow fast in OTC...without as much rubbing.
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 18, 2021 14:36:15 GMT -6
I like red pines - they seem grow pretty fast in sandy loam type soils. They aren't great habitat trees though since they self prune once the lower branches are shaded by the upper branches.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 18, 2021 15:07:44 GMT -6
It seems like deer rub whichever variety of conifer that I have the least of.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 18, 2021 16:18:12 GMT -6
I think this is a red pine ...?
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Post by smsmith on Jan 18, 2021 19:27:24 GMT -6
Scotch grows the quickest on light soil here. Norway is second fastest. Austrians do okay on better soils. Ponderosas seem to start slow, but I have a few that appear ready to really take off. Time will tell. I love how white pines look and have planted a couple hundred here, but they are deer candy. I hope to have at least a dozen or so survive and become trees someday.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 18, 2021 20:11:10 GMT -6
A foot a year growth sound about right? Maybe a little more
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Post by smsmith on Jan 18, 2021 20:20:21 GMT -6
A foot a year growth sound about right? Maybe a little more I've got some scotch pines that are 5 years old and pushing 8'. They're in full sun so that really makes a difference. I think 2' a year on established pines for some of their young years isn't out of line.
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Post by Freeborn on Jan 18, 2021 21:50:32 GMT -6
What’s your goal with the pines? I understand the Austrian pine keeps its branches as it matures. I have a few planted and they are doing pretty well considering my poor soil.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 18, 2021 22:05:25 GMT -6
My goal?
I have Pines planted in areas of Spruce as a combo for bedding. Also have some planted up in Parkers Prairie as a screen from neighbors land...along with Spruce/Cedar.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 20, 2021 9:32:32 GMT -6
We planted 50 Scotch Pine back in (geez it would be a guess) late 90s...about 12 survived. Here is one, they really get rubbed.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 20, 2021 9:57:58 GMT -6
We planted 50 Scotch Pine back in (geez it would be a guess) late 90s...about 12 survived. Here is one, they really get rubbed. I don't recall which "deer guy" wrote it, but at one time I read an article about man made scrape/rub setups. His recommendation was to cut off large scotch pine branches and use them for the posts. Around here, there aren't many evergreens growing naturally. Most are found in yards/groves by/behind houses. Red cedars are about "it" for wild evergreens...and it is almost impossible to find one of any size that hasn't been rubbed. I hope I live long enough to see the evergreens I've planted here attain the size of some of yours.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 23, 2021 12:49:24 GMT -6
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 23, 2021 13:09:14 GMT -6
Bottom two look like red pine to me.
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