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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 25, 2022 8:45:15 GMT -6
A pine planted with a good solid cage around it with weed mat…will be 7-8 feet in 4 years on my Otter Tail parcel .
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 8, 2023 18:11:54 GMT -6
A friend of mine (Minnesota Habitat Management-Jason Tank) has some very nice 2 gallon potted Scotch Pine for $18. Very nice trees. I can get pics of anyone is interested.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 26, 2023 6:53:10 GMT -6
Caging pine makes a huge difference!  the pine next to it are 2 feet of less … |
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Post by nhmountains on Oct 26, 2023 17:31:02 GMT -6
I ordered some Dawn Redwoods from Chief River Nursery. I've seen them at the Vermont Orchard guy I visit a few times a year. He planted them 20 years ago or so. They are fast growers. I've got a spot that I'll plant a grove of them now that the hemlock are being cut. They'll look nice with their fall needles turning color with the maples. chiefrivernursery.com/dawn-redwood-metasequoia-glyptostroboides.html |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 8, 2023 19:49:43 GMT -6
I added 10 Ponderosa pines to my order from U of ID today. I had some losses (again) due to drought in a few spots. I wanted Scotch pine, but they were out of stock. I've planted a few hundred Ponderosas here. I hope I live long enough to see some of them get to 15-20' or so
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Post by benmnwi on Nov 8, 2023 20:57:03 GMT -6
I added 10 Ponderosa pines to my order from U of ID today. I had some losses (again) due to drought in a few spots. I wanted Scotch pine, but they were out of stock. I've planted a few hundred Ponderosas here. I hope I live long enough to see some of them get to 15-20' or so On a black hills turkey hunt over a decade ago I pulled some small ponderosa pines to plant in rusk county. They grew great, but last winter the early ice and wet snow loads caused them to bend over to a 45 degree angle. I didn’t expect that considering how much snow they can get in the black hills. The adjacent red pines from the wi dnr nursery did great though with only minor branch damage. |
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 9, 2023 9:20:04 GMT -6
I added 10 Ponderosa pines to my order from U of ID today. I had some losses (again) due to drought in a few spots. I wanted Scotch pine, but they were out of stock. I've planted a few hundred Ponderosas here. I hope I live long enough to see some of them get to 15-20' or so Do you cage them? |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 9, 2023 9:39:46 GMT -6
I added 10 Ponderosa pines to my order from U of ID today. I had some losses (again) due to drought in a few spots. I wanted Scotch pine, but they were out of stock. I've planted a few hundred Ponderosas here. I hope I live long enough to see some of them get to 15-20' or so Do you cage them? Only a few. Evergreens are on their own here for the most part |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 9, 2023 10:03:37 GMT -6
I added 10 Ponderosa pines to my order from U of ID today. I had some losses (again) due to drought in a few spots. I wanted Scotch pine, but they were out of stock. I've planted a few hundred Ponderosas here. I hope I live long enough to see some of them get to 15-20' or so On a black hills turkey hunt over a decade ago I pulled some small ponderosa pines to plant in rusk county. They grew great, but last winter the early ice and wet snow loads caused them to bend over to a 45 degree angle. I didn’t expect that considering how much snow they can get in the black hills. The adjacent red pines from the wi dnr nursery did great though with only minor branch damage. That early, heavy wet snow last winter did a number on a whole bunch of my Norway and white spruce too. All kinds of brushy species also got enveloped and bent over. Some of the prickly ash and honeysuckle never recovered. Most of the spruces did. Time will tell how the Ponderosa pines do here long term. They are such cool looking trees I'd like to have some of them. Plus, some day I hope the next people who own this place walk around saying "what the hell are all these different trees doing growing here?"  |
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Post by benmnwi on Nov 9, 2023 14:54:43 GMT -6
On a black hills turkey hunt over a decade ago I pulled some small ponderosa pines to plant in rusk county. They grew great, but last winter the early ice and wet snow loads caused them to bend over to a 45 degree angle. I didn’t expect that considering how much snow they can get in the black hills. The adjacent red pines from the wi dnr nursery did great though with only minor branch damage. That early, heavy wet snow last winter did a number on a whole bunch of my Norway and white spruce too. All kinds of brushy species also got enveloped and bent over. Some of the prickly ash and honeysuckle never recovered. Most of the spruces did. Time will tell how the Ponderosa pines do here long term. They are such cool looking trees I'd like to have some of them. Plus, some day I hope the next people who own this place walk around saying "what the hell are all these different trees doing growing here?" When I planted those ponderosa pines, that’s exactly what I was hoping for. I wanted a logger to wonder how those trees were mixed in with a row of red pines. |
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 18, 2023 6:15:38 GMT -6
Bare root or plugs? What tool for plugs? What nursery for shipping to NH?
I'm looking for 200-300 firs/spruce and 250 white pine.
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Post by Tooln on Nov 18, 2023 7:09:44 GMT -6
Bare root or plugs? What tool for plugs? What nursery for shipping to NH? I'm looking for 200-300 firs/spruce and 250 white pine. I've planted 1500 bare root when I had my property. If I had to do it again I'd go with plugs. I used root gel and we had a dry year, I had well over 97% survival it made me a true believer in root gel. |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 18, 2023 8:29:04 GMT -6
Bare root or plugs? What tool for plugs? What nursery for shipping to NH? I'm looking for 200-300 firs/spruce and 250 white pine. I've planted thousands of both. Plugs take less than half the time, at least when you have a plug planting tool. What nursery for shipping to NH...I have no idea. I'd think any online nursery would do so. Wherever you order from, the sooner the better. Seems trees are selling out earlier and earlier every year. For plugs, it seems Itasca is the cheapest by far. Chief River is offering plugs now, but I have a strong suspicion that they are sourcing their plugs from Itasca. I could be wrong For bareroot, there's a lot of sources. The last few times I ordered bareroot stock I used Musser Forests. edit...I'll add that I think plugs are far more "drought proof". I planted a few hundred spruce plugs this year. It rained very, very little from Memorial Day through Labor Day. Most of this year's plugs that I've checked on are alive. I don't think that would have been the case with bareroot. |
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Post by Reagan on Nov 18, 2023 8:58:27 GMT -6
Can you use a dibble for plug planting and get good results? I’ve got one but I’ve only planted bare root.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 18, 2023 9:07:41 GMT -6
Can you use a dibble for plug planting and get good results? I’ve got one but I’ve only planted bare root. I don't know, maybe? A dibble will slow the process of plug planting quite a bit. A plug tool requires a single push/footstep. A dibble requires multiple pushes/footsteps as well as "compacting" moves with the arms/shoulders. I think if I only had a dibble, I'd stick with bareroots and water absorbing gel dip. |
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