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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 21, 2021 9:53:09 GMT -6
I have a nice mix now, but chestnut crab seems to be the go to for me...easy and grows fast so far. I have one producing nice fruit. Still a major amateur.
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Post by badgerfowl on Jan 21, 2021 10:31:39 GMT -6
At the USDA zone 3-4 junction. a friend recently asked for my recommendations. This is in the presence of considerable cedar apple rust. I have other varieties under consideration and some other notes. Norland often drops in Early to mid August and appears to be quite hardy. The Trailman had a bit of fireblight this year. Centennial Crab might be a good substitute for this time period, however on B118, it is too small for a deer tree. I have or will have all those listed except Norland and Harolson. My lone centennial on B118 is an absolute runt. Probably should not have let it fruit the first year. It has fruited every year it's been in the ground and just hasn't grown up yet. I should thin the entire thing for a few years to see if it grows more vertical. My kerr looked like absolute shit this year. Jury still out on that one. It's in an area that floods in the spring and could have wet feet issues.
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 21, 2021 12:14:32 GMT -6
Art - Do you have any Norkent apples at your place? I've been impressed with that variety at my place and it is a really good late summer/early fall apple for me.
I have a good early through mid season apple varieties, but I need to spend more effort grafting late season varieties to give the critters some bonus winter calories.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 13:10:26 GMT -6
Art - Do you have any Norkent apples at your place? I've been impressed with that variety at my place and it is a really good late summer/early fall apple for me. I have a good early through mid season apple varieties, but I need to spend more effort grafting late season varieties to give the critters some bonus winter calories. I have Noran, but it hasn’t fruited yet. Is that the same apple or very similar?
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 21, 2021 14:04:04 GMT -6
It looks like the Noran is a different apple than Norkent. My Norkent ripens in August and some type of critters have them picked clean by September.
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Post by Catscratch on Jan 21, 2021 14:54:23 GMT -6
I have a grafted Dolgo and a Golden Hornet. Not sure I would recommend either for where I'm at. The Dolgo's never drops and rot on the tree, the Golden Hornet doesn't seem to grow. It wants to produce but the tree hasn't gotten bigger for several years. The Dolgo was a quick producer also, and hasn't grown much in height but has added trunk diameter pretty well. All trees I buy are to be CAR resistant and Fire Blight resistant. Those are my number one priorities when I talk with nurseries. Nothing else I've planted in the last 5 years have produced enough or consistently enough to know how they are going to turn out.
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Post by chummer16 on Jan 21, 2021 14:58:40 GMT -6
Kerr remains my favorite. They lived through the first polar vortex so I know they are bullet proof. They are also immune from FB. I get a few apples every year but think this could be the year they have a lot.
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 21, 2021 15:46:15 GMT -6
I'm happy to hear Kerr is recommended because I have a couple young Kerr trees that I have high hopes for. I'm also hoping Franklin does as well in MN as it does in NY or wherever it was found.
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Post by batman on Jan 21, 2021 16:54:39 GMT -6
Do apples feed deer? How much fruit does an apple tree drop?
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 21, 2021 17:07:48 GMT -6
Do apples feed deer? How much fruit does an apple tree drop? A 10 year old tree if taken care of could produce 10 bushel of apples or roughly 500 pounds. Older trees may produce 20 bushels. I had a couple that produced 15 bushels two years ago. Deer were on them every night from September through February. Unfortunately they are on my camp lawn instead of out in the back woods. I think they're more like candy for the deer though.
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Post by chummer16 on Jan 21, 2021 17:28:40 GMT -6
I'm happy to hear Kerr is recommended because I have a couple young Kerr trees that I have high hopes for. I'm also hoping Franklin does as well in MN as it does in NY or wherever it was found. My Franklins got hammered by FB this year. Very disappointing
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Post by smsmith on Jan 21, 2021 17:31:38 GMT -6
Norland often drops in Early to mid August and appears to be quite hardy. The Trailman had a bit of fireblight this year. Centennial Crab might be a good substitute for this time period, however on B118, it is too small for a deer tree. I have or will have all those listed except Norland and Harolson. My lone centennial on B118 is an absolute runt. Probably should not have let it fruit the first year. It has fruited every year it's been in the ground and just hasn't grown up yet. I should thin the entire thing for a few years to see if it grows more vertical. My kerr looked like absolute shit this year. Jury still out on that one. It's in an area that floods in the spring and could have wet feet issues. Centennial is a natural small semi-dwarf
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Post by smsmith on Jan 21, 2021 17:41:25 GMT -6
Do apples feed deer? How much fruit does an apple tree drop? A 10 year old tree if taken care of could produce 10 bushel of apples or roughly 500 pounds. Older trees may produce 20 bushels. I had a couple that produced 15 bushels two years ago. Deer were on them every night from September through February. Unfortunately they are on my camp lawn instead of out in the back woods. I think they're more like candy for the deer though. 50 trees per acre would be a very low density planting of apples on standard rootstocks with plenty of room left for white clover among/under the trees. 50 x 500 = 25000 lbs of food, 12.5 tons. Not counting the white clover.
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Post by batman on Jan 21, 2021 17:44:23 GMT -6
A 10 year old tree if taken care of could produce 10 bushel of apples or roughly 500 pounds. Older trees may produce 20 bushels. I had a couple that produced 15 bushels two years ago. Deer were on them every night from September through February. Unfortunately they are on my camp lawn instead of out in the back woods. I think they're more like candy for the deer though. 50 trees per acre would be a very low density planting of apples on standard rootstocks with plenty of room left for white clover among/under the trees. 50 x 500 = 25000 lbs of food, 12.5 tons. Not counting the white clover. Damn! How many hours a year to maintain 50 apple trees?
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Post by smsmith on Jan 21, 2021 17:46:28 GMT -6
50 trees per acre would be a very low density planting of apples on standard rootstocks with plenty of room left for white clover among/under the trees. 50 x 500 = 25000 lbs of food, 12.5 tons. Not counting the white clover. Damn! How many hours a year to maintain 50 apple trees? No idea. I don't have 50 full grown trees yet. A lot. A corn feeder would be much cheaper and a tiny fraction of the hours required.
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