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Post by Freeborn on Apr 26, 2021 8:47:25 GMT -6
God you guys have good memories, I can't remember what I did yesterday. I did enjoy the QDMA forum, it was quite a mix of good and bad characters. It took awhile to get everyone to finally put their regions under their avatars as I can remember reading allot of posts that were counter to what I new about my region. Who was the fella out of Missouri who burned is woods, rotated cattle and really knew his soil? I really enjoyed his posts. There were bright guys on that forum, including us. dgallow. I think he was in OK, but I could be wrong. Yep, thanks for the correction. I did enjoy his posts.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 9:15:02 GMT -6
dgallow. I think he was in OK, but I could be wrong. Yep, thanks for the correction. I did enjoy his posts. I remember Dgallow's posts from the Q forum. There was allot of "new" info floating about back then......and some was controversial and some was better suited for certain geographic regions. It was hard to sort the wheat from the chaff......at least for me at times. I was trying to get the Q club RESTARTED in Pequot for a time.....and was willing to do some work to re-establish what had been done. But the "regional rep" from ILL (?) wouldn't even call me. Dumb azz. I did get the QDMA to take down that dot in Pequot Lakes before they banned me from their site. Remember also starting the "Save a Doe - Let the herd grow" movement in MN ? What was that called? MDDA. MN Deer Density Assn? Was somewhat of a movement for a time. I think the first ever "land tour" was at Art's place and that is where I met allot of the guys on this site.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 9:23:53 GMT -6
The one guy that did more for the deer habitat "movement" than anyone else was likely "lick Creek". I cannot remember him ever getting into any silly debate over trivial stuff......he simply was able to raise above any fray and when he spoke most everyone listend. Paul's work is still the gold standard IMO.
There was also the book "Ultimate Deer Food Plots" by Ed Spinazzola under the Michigan QDMA lable. I need to read that again.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 9:27:57 GMT -6
Jogging the memory now.....how about the guy called Murphy ran an outfitting biz in ILL. Always promoting his place. Dumb stick.....sold life insurance and thought anyone that didn't have life insurance was goofy.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 26, 2021 9:28:18 GMT -6
Yep, thanks for the correction. I did enjoy his posts. I remember Dgallow's posts from the Q forum. There was allot of "new" info floating about back then......and some was controversial and some was better suited for certain geographic regions. It was hard to sort the wheat from the chaff......at least for me at times. I was trying to get some movement started in Pequot for a time.....and was willing to do some work to re-establish what had been done. But the "regional rep" from ILL (?) wouldn't even call me. Dumb azz. I did get the QDMA to take down that dot in Pequot Lakes before they banned me from their site. Remember also starting the "Save a Doe - Let the herd grow" movement in MN ? What was that called? MDDA. MN Deer Density Assn? Was somewhat of a movement for a time. I think the first ever "land tour" was at Art's place and that is where I met allot of the guys on this site. I did a couple land tours with some Sconnie guys before I moved here. They were on the Q forum too, but not all that active with posting. I can't recall their handles right now. We hit 4 parcels in one day, one in Dane County, 2 in Adams, and 1 in Juneau...that was way too much.
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 26, 2021 9:29:32 GMT -6
Jogging the memory now.....how about the guy called Murphy ran an outfitting biz in ILL. Always promoting his place. Dumb stick. you mean duffy??
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 9:31:58 GMT -6
Jogging the memory now.....how about the guy called Murphy ran an outfitting biz in ILL. Always promoting his place. Dumb stick. you mean duffy?? MY bad. Yep Duffy. What a clown.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 9:38:57 GMT -6
OH!......and how about the great Tony Lapratt and what he would charge to attend his "school". Everyone had to take a pledge to not share what they learned. LOL. What a trip.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 26, 2021 9:41:12 GMT -6
That whole QDMA debacle cost me some internet "friends". I used to have some pretty good discussions with some of those guys, both on the forum and off. I wonder if those guys who remained loyal to the "Q" feel any differently now?
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 9:53:18 GMT -6
That whole QDMA debacle cost me some internet "friends". I used to have some pretty good discussions with some of those guys, both on the forum and off. I wonder if those guys who remained loyal to the "Q" feel any differently now? After the QDMA forum debacle......I wonder how many simply quit the forum "addiction"? Is the QDMA actually an organization anymore?
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Post by Tooln on Apr 26, 2021 9:57:02 GMT -6
Jogging the memory now.....how about the guy called Murphy ran an outfitting biz in ILL. Always promoting his place. Dumb stick.....sold life insurance and thought anyone that didn't have life insurance was goofy. Yea Duffy alway posting about deer his hunters shot and they didn't find them till way later.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 26, 2021 9:57:31 GMT -6
That whole QDMA debacle cost me some internet "friends". I used to have some pretty good discussions with some of those guys, both on the forum and off. I wonder if those guys who remained loyal to the "Q" feel any differently now? After the QDMA forum debacle......I wonder how many simply quit the forum "addiction"? Is the QDMA actually an organization anymore? A lot of the other guys from that forum are on various Facebook "deer groups". It seems many folks prefer that type of interchange over forums. QDMA had a "political" branch offshoot that was NDA (National Deer Assoc.) QDMA has now been "absorbed" by the NDA. I'm guessing there was some reason ($$$$) for the re-organization but I really don't know.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 26, 2021 10:08:06 GMT -6
After the QDMA forum debacle......I wonder how many simply quit the forum "addiction"? Is the QDMA actually an organization anymore? A lot of the other guys from that forum are on various Facebook "deer groups". It seems many folks prefer that type of interchange over forums. QDMA had a "political" branch offshoot that was NDA (National Deer Assoc.) QDMA has now been "absorbed" by the NDA. I'm guessing there was some reason ($$$$) for the re-organization but I really don't know. Yep. I just did a little research.....and found a timeline on the deer assn movement. (much of it is driven by $$) NDA History In 1987, a wildlife biologist from South Carolina named Joe Hamilton was invited to speak to the Australian Deer Association. Impressed with their organization, Joe returned to the United States with an idea for a similar group in South Carolina. Following a series of meetings in coastal South Carolina in 1988, a core group of volunteers outlined the framework of a new group that would become the QDMA. They scraped together their own money to launch a newsletter, and Joe sketched a logo for the group: a buck and doe silhouette. This core group was eventually named the Lowcountry Branch, the first Branch of the QDMA, and it is still active today. By 1992, a total of 16 Branches had been formed in South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia and Wisconsin. 1993 The Signpost newsletter could no longer adequately present the flood of content being provided, so Quality Whitetails magazine was launched. 1995 The “national headquarters” is relocated from the home of volunteer Executive Director Robert Manning and his wife Kathy to the home of Joe and Donna Hamilton in South Carolina. 1997 Brian Murphy is hired as Executive Director and the “national office” is moved to a guest bedroom in Brian’s home near Athens, Ga. 2000 QDMA membership reaches 10,000. 2001 QDMA’s first National Convention is held in Athens, Ga. 2002 QDMA member Frank Coggins of Elberton, Ga., donates 23 acres of land near Athens for a new headquarters site. 2005 An 18,000-square-foot National Headquarters building, made possible by donations from numerous QDMA members in architecture and construction, is dedicated. 2007 QDMA’s popular Deer Steward program is launched. 2008 QDMA publishes its first annual Whitetail Report and membership tops 50,000. 2011 Brian Murphy is named among 2011’s Top 25 Conservationists in Outdoor Life magazine. 2012 QDMA launches the Rack Pack youth program, Land Certification Program and the Online Deer Steward course. 2015 QDMA forms the National Deer Alliance as well as the Brother’s Hamilton Society. 2016 QDMA launches its Share Your Hunt program and publishes QDMA’s Guide to Successful Deer Hunting e-book. 2017 QDMA launches its new five-year mission goals and receives a 4-star Charity Navigator rating; Mossy Oak becomes the official camouflage of QDMA; and QDMA receives a 132-acre land donation adjacent to its current headquarters. 2018 QDMA celebrates its 30th anniversary 2020 QDMA merges with the National Deer Alliance to form the all-new National Deer Association NDA membership has topped 60,000, and the NDA volunteer network has climbed to more than 180 NDA Branches in more than 30 states, with many others forming. NDA Branches actively pursue the NDA mission in their areas and hold educational and social events to unite like-minded sportsmen in this common goal. Become a part of this growing, influential organization by joining today. It’s where deer hunters belong!
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 26, 2021 10:16:42 GMT -6
A lot of the other guys from that forum are on various Facebook "deer groups". It seems many folks prefer that type of interchange over forums. QDMA had a "political" branch offshoot that was NDA (National Deer Assoc.) QDMA has now been "absorbed" by the NDA. I'm guessing there was some reason ($$$$) for the re-organization but I really don't know. Yep. I just did a little research.....and found a timeline on the deer assn movement. (much of it is driven by $$) NDA History In 1987, a wildlife biologist from South Carolina named Joe Hamilton was invited to speak to the Australian Deer Association. Impressed with their organization, Joe returned to the United States with an idea for a similar group in South Carolina. Following a series of meetings in coastal South Carolina in 1988, a core group of volunteers outlined the framework of a new group that would become the QDMA. They scraped together their own money to launch a newsletter, and Joe sketched a logo for the group: a buck and doe silhouette. This core group was eventually named the Lowcountry Branch, the first Branch of the QDMA, and it is still active today. By 1992, a total of 16 Branches had been formed in South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia and Wisconsin. 1993 The Signpost newsletter could no longer adequately present the flood of content being provided, so Quality Whitetails magazine was launched. 1995 The “national headquarters” is relocated from the home of volunteer Executive Director Robert Manning and his wife Kathy to the home of Joe and Donna Hamilton in South Carolina. 1997 Brian Murphy is hired as Executive Director and the “national office” is moved to a guest bedroom in Brian’s home near Athens, Ga. 2000 QDMA membership reaches 10,000. 2001 QDMA’s first National Convention is held in Athens, Ga. 2002 QDMA member Frank Coggins of Elberton, Ga., donates 23 acres of land near Athens for a new headquarters site. 2005 An 18,000-square-foot National Headquarters building, made possible by donations from numerous QDMA members in architecture and construction, is dedicated. 2007 QDMA’s popular Deer Steward program is launched. 2008 QDMA publishes its first annual Whitetail Report and membership tops 50,000. 2011 Brian Murphy is named among 2011’s Top 25 Conservationists in Outdoor Life magazine. 2012 QDMA launches the Rack Pack youth program, Land Certification Program and the Online Deer Steward course. 2015 QDMA forms the National Deer Alliance as well as the Brother’s Hamilton Society. 2016 QDMA launches its Share Your Hunt program and publishes QDMA’s Guide to Successful Deer Hunting e-book. 2017 QDMA launches its new five-year mission goals and receives a 4-star Charity Navigator rating; Mossy Oak becomes the official camouflage of QDMA; and QDMA receives a 132-acre land donation adjacent to its current headquarters. 2018 QDMA celebrates its 30th anniversary 2020 QDMA merges with the National Deer Alliance to form the all-new National Deer Association NDA membership has topped 60,000, and the NDA volunteer network has climbed to more than 180 NDA Branches in more than 30 states, with many others forming. NDA Branches actively pursue the NDA mission in their areas and hold educational and social events to unite like-minded sportsmen in this common goal. Become a part of this growing, influential organization by joining today. It’s where deer hunters belong! The old QDMA name had some baggage, so they needed to change the name.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 26, 2021 10:22:25 GMT -6
Yep, thanks for the correction. I did enjoy his posts. I remember Dgallow's posts from the Q forum. There was allot of "new" info floating about back then......and some was controversial and some was better suited for certain geographic regions. It was hard to sort the wheat from the chaff......at least for me at times. I was trying to get the Q club RESTARTED in Pequot for a time.....and was willing to do some work to re-establish what had been done. But the "regional rep" from ILL (?) wouldn't even call me. Dumb azz. I did get the QDMA to take down that dot in Pequot Lakes before they banned me from their site. Remember also starting the "Save a Doe - Let the herd grow" movement in MN ? What was that called? MDDA. MN Deer Density Assn? Was somewhat of a movement for a time. I think the first ever "land tour" was at Art's place and that is where I met allot of the guys on this site. I could only read so much of Gallow’s posts and I felt his discussions were far more regional than he would admit. I still don’t buy all of the no till stuff on all soils. I saw one young farmer make all of the news and had success during one year. He was featured on news to the general public. He was pretty much out of business in two - three years. Experienced farmers will tell you which soils need tillage in their area. They need to get yields to pay the bills.
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