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Apr 3, 2023 11:02:47 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2023 11:02:47 GMT -6
This court case won't negatively impact Trump's base at all, if anything it will strengthen the base. I agree with your assessment Stu. The problem isn't with the base, it's with the middle of the road Rs and Independent voters. This I think is where the future of our nation hangs on a knifes edge. Stu you are the 2nd half of your own sentence, you embody the 'which way do I lean' statement you just made.
How I see this, if I allow myself a 30k foot view and remove myself from the Trump name & focus on factual information. It is not about #45, its 100% about freedom, our nation being sovereign with its own borders, we are a nation of free people yet things don't seem free, for a few years now. If they cannot get legitimate votes they bring them in by the millions from other country to be warm bodies that in the meantime dilutes our economy.
I really do believe the meme below is exactly where the 2nd half of your sentence will bring us to a just win 'for the people' or the reality of a nation state will be consummated.
I just don't see Trump as the "savior" that many folks like yourself do. As I've stated, if he gets the nomination I'll vote for him. Let's say he wins (which I think is impossible, as badgerfowl stated it won't happen), what will he do this time to drain the swamp permanently and save me from the next D president simply undoing whatever Trump does as a lame duck president? Are we going to appoint him permanent president and throw out the Constitution?
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Post by buckvelvet on Apr 3, 2023 11:20:06 GMT -6
I just don't see Trump as the "savior" that many folks like yourself do. As I've stated, if he gets the nomination I'll vote for him. Let's say he wins (which I think is impossible, as badgerfowl stated it won't happen), what will he do this time to drain the swamp permanently and save me from the next D president simply undoing whatever Trump does as a lame duck president? Are we going to appoint him permanent president and throw out the Constitution? I respect your views, always have, but I think that's where some delusion starts, I love the candidate Donald Trump, I don't, and firmly state don't, believe that Donald Trump or any 1 person is my and/or our savior, this United States.
Its the embodiment of what Trump represents that snags my loyalty & affections there fore.
Trump was not political when he got in office in 2016, yet, someone name something he didn't do that he said he would, the problem was and is from that first 4 years he had people that were playing both sides in his administration. The 2nd 4 years will not be like that, he knows who the political hacks are and those looking to continue treasonous acts to our country. Whether you view my opinion of that as fact or not, that is something I would bet what I have on.
I don't view it at satirical or humor to say that if we don't have a plan or a candidate in place that will say the truth and act on it, damn the consequences moving forward we will no longer have the country our birth records state. 2028 will take care of itself with someone else, I don't view trump again, other than the spearhead of the movement we desperately need to complete.
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Apr 4, 2023 12:48:41 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Apr 4, 2023 12:48:41 GMT -6
I just don't see Trump as the "savior" that many folks like yourself do. As I've stated, if he gets the nomination I'll vote for him. Let's say he wins (which I think is impossible, as badgerfowl stated it won't happen), what will he do this time to drain the swamp permanently and save me from the next D president simply undoing whatever Trump does as a lame duck president? Are we going to appoint him permanent president and throw out the Constitution? I respect your views, always have, but I think that's where some delusion starts, I love the candidate Donald Trump, I don't, and firmly state don't, believe that Donald Trump or any 1 person is my and/or our savior, this United States.
Its the embodiment of what Trump represents that snags my loyalty & affections there fore.
Trump was not political when he got in office in 2016, yet, someone name something he didn't do that he said he would, the problem was and is from that first 4 years he had people that were playing both sides in his administration. The 2nd 4 years will not be like that, he knows who the political hacks are and those looking to continue treasonous acts to our country. Whether you view my opinion of that as fact or not, that is something I would bet what I have on.
I don't view it at satirical or humor to say that if we don't have a plan or a candidate in place that will say the truth and act on it, damn the consequences moving forward we will no longer have the country our birth records state. 2028 will take care of itself with someone else, I don't view trump again, other than the spearhead of the movement we desperately need to complete.
That seems awfully convenient, no? Who is this person that will ensure what Trump does during his lame duck 4 years continues ad infinitum? If that person is ready to rock and roll in 2028, where are they now? Why aren't they ready to spear head the charge right now? 5 years is going to turn them into a human dynamo?
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Apr 4, 2023 14:49:21 GMT -6
Post by buckvelvet on Apr 4, 2023 14:49:21 GMT -6
I respect your views, always have, but I think that's where some delusion starts, I love the candidate Donald Trump, I don't, and firmly state don't, believe that Donald Trump or any 1 person is my and/or our savior, this United States.
Its the embodiment of what Trump represents that snags my loyalty & affections there fore.
Trump was not political when he got in office in 2016, yet, someone name something he didn't do that he said he would, the problem was and is from that first 4 years he had people that were playing both sides in his administration. The 2nd 4 years will not be like that, he knows who the political hacks are and those looking to continue treasonous acts to our country. Whether you view my opinion of that as fact or not, that is something I would bet what I have on.
I don't view it at satirical or humor to say that if we don't have a plan or a candidate in place that will say the truth and act on it, damn the consequences moving forward we will no longer have the country our birth records state. 2028 will take care of itself with someone else, I don't view trump again, other than the spearhead of the movement we desperately need to complete.
That seems awfully convenient, no? Who is this person that will ensure what Trump does during his lame duck 4 years continues ad infinitum? If that person is ready to rock and roll in 2028, where are they now? Why aren't they ready to spear head the charge right now? 5 years is going to turn them into a human dynamo? Everyone in history has had a season where they came to forefront and led a charge of something that shifted everyones attention for good or bad. Its not 'crazy' or 'convenient' to say that about 2028, clearly the US politically is known as before Trump & after Trump, right now, we are not 'after' Trump that much is in all of our faces.
2024 like it or not for the fence sitters in a non crazy left arena Trump is 100% the forerunner.
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Apr 5, 2023 6:47:27 GMT -6
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 5, 2023 6:47:27 GMT -6
Wisconsin just voted in a liberal Supreme Court judge. 4-3 majority now. Scary !
The results were odd, even small rural counties voted for her ? I don’t get it ?
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2023 7:04:16 GMT -6
The WI Supreme Court and Chicago Mayoral votes show that socialism in America is alive and well.
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Apr 5, 2023 7:08:05 GMT -6
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 5, 2023 7:08:05 GMT -6
The WI Supreme Court and Chicago Mayoral votes show that socialism in America is alive and well. I’m not sure what to think ? Maybe depression !👎🙄
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Apr 5, 2023 7:14:57 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2023 7:14:57 GMT -6
The WI Supreme Court and Chicago Mayoral votes show that socialism in America is alive and well. I’m not sure what to think ? Maybe depression !👎🙄 My opinion is that the Dems' strategy is working/has worked. Hand out trillions of dollars to people for doing nothing and they want more. They have figured out how to energize their base and get them to vote en masse.
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Apr 5, 2023 7:28:19 GMT -6
Post by buckvelvet on Apr 5, 2023 7:28:19 GMT -6
WI crazy lunatic left like what they put in the SCOTUS last year just joined the WI SCOTUS by 14 pts? Some of this stuff is hard for me to believe, MN, WI, & MI are not very different people demographic wise, generally 1-2 cities vs the rest of the state.
Chicago elected a full on Marxist.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2023 7:32:23 GMT -6
I think it's time we faced the fact that an awful lot of folks in this country aren't anything like those of us on this forum.
It's also time the Republican party figures some shit out and gets with the program or they'll never win another election in states with widely mixed demographics.
JMHO
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Post by buckvelvet on Apr 5, 2023 8:16:56 GMT -6
I think it's time we faced the fact that an awful lot of folks in this country aren't anything like those of us on this forum. It's also time the Republican party figures some shit out and gets with the program or they'll never win another election in states with widely mixed demographics. JMHO You're not wrong Stu. We literally have to ballot harvest and break laws to win in this current system, thats gross, but seriously facts. The only way to enforce laws is to win then actually you know, use the laws on the books when people that actually like our country govern it.
Both parties are not great. Frustrating as all get out, but I'm with you on that thought.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 5, 2023 8:30:06 GMT -6
Play their game !! Come in with 130,000 votes at 3am after the election. Personally I think Republicans should not declare their numbers until Democrats report . Then there is no opportunity to add and somehow win by a slight margin !
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Apr 5, 2023 9:01:06 GMT -6
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 5, 2023 9:01:06 GMT -6
I think it's time we faced the fact that an awful lot of folks in this country aren't anything like those of us on this forum. It's also time the Republican party figures some shit out and gets with the program or they'll never win another election in states with widely mixed demographics. JMHO I have seen a lot of hard working, Spanish speaking people on the farms. It seems like they should be conservatives.
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Apr 5, 2023 9:11:10 GMT -6
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 5, 2023 9:11:10 GMT -6
Something is not adding up. I see articles saying Hispanics have started to vote Republican in higher percentages, blacks for Republicans have nearly doubled, Jewish vote for Republicans has increased. Asian voters are increasing toward Republican, but then you see these recent results ?
Doesn’t add up. In the midterm Republicans had 6 million more votes than Democrats, yet made very little progress in majority. House only.
It seems to me that Democrats are winning where they need to… for a majority. Like in Wisconsin Supreme Court ??
Odd… why would all the above be happening, but the bottom line is they still win ??
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 5, 2023 10:05:20 GMT -6
Something is not adding up. I see articles saying Hispanics have started to vote Republican in higher percentages, blacks for Republicans have nearly doubled, Jewish vote for Republicans has increased. Asian voters are increasing toward Republican, but then you see these recent results ? Doesn’t add up. In the midterm Republicans had 6 million more votes than Democrats, yet made very little progress in majority. House only. It seems to me that Democrats are winning where they need to… for a majority. Like in Wisconsin Supreme Court ?? Odd… why would all the above be happening, but the bottom line is they still win ?? Are our media sources on both sides to biased to tell the whole story? Back to the basics.. Liars figure and figures lie!
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