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Post by Foggy on May 8, 2022 23:12:28 GMT -6
OK I like what this guy is saying for my land..... Your Thoughts? Maybe I can get my family to run a chain saw.....I'm not sure I got the juice for it. (FORE)
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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2022 5:43:25 GMT -6
Foggy, are you talking about cutting some of the popple regrowth or the pines that are left standing? Those pines are too big in my opinion for you or family to drop and probably too valuable.
Cutting back those popple would create diversity in regrowth.
Early in the video was a picture of the perimeter deer trail. It was narrow with one log visible across it. That would indicate it had little use or attractiveness to four wheelers and people on foot, which is a good thing.
I don’t know if cutting back those young popple will create much horizontal cover as they rot very fast. You will get vertical cover from the regrowth. Some feel summer cutting of those popple causes less regrowth which you might be able to use to increase chances of a grassy pocket.
Where I have created these pockets of dropped red cedars on my place, horizontal cover lasts for at least a decade. Cedars are slow to rot. Those pockets fill up with buckthorn. I don’t think buckthorn has reached your place, yet, but I see some between your home and the hunting property.
I think that if you would walk the property as soon as you get back, before the leaves emerge, would be a benefit. Carry an aerial photo or do it electronically, and document existing rubs and scrapes. Pay attention to the direction the rubs face and you can determine if they are morning or evening buck travel routes. Look for clusters of rubs in cover and determine if they are staging areas or a bedding area for a buck. Look at the size of the rubs to judge yearling buck areas against any potential mature buck trail.
I would be sure of what you have and how it is being used, before dropping trees for bedding pockets.
Just my opinion here, but the less trails you have that are wider than 30 inches the better it is. Bucks only need a trail wide enough to get their shoulders and their rack through. 24 inches is enough. Few bucks get wider racks than that.
Sorry to ramble on so long.
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Post by batman on May 9, 2022 6:13:47 GMT -6
20 and 30 yards seems pretty close if you dont have a screen between you and the deer.
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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2022 7:36:50 GMT -6
20 and 30 yards seems pretty close if you dont have a screen between you and the deer. And walking noise can be a factor at that short distance. I have some spots I can only approach with certain winds and when I need wind noise to cover my approach.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2022 8:57:58 GMT -6
Foggy, are you talking about cutting some of the popple regrowth or the pines that are left standing? Those pines are too big in my opinion for you or family to drop and probably too valuable. Cutting back those popple would create diversity in regrowth. Early in the video was a picture of the perimeter deer trail. It was narrow with one log visible across it. That would indicate it had little use or attractiveness to four wheelers and people on foot, which is a good thing. I don’t know if cutting back those young popple will create much horizontal cover as they rot very fast. You will get vertical cover from the regrowth. Some feel summer cutting of those popple causes less regrowth which you might be able to use to increase chances of a grassy pocket. Where I have created these pockets of dropped red cedars on my place, horizontal cover lasts for at least a decade. Cedars are slow to rot. Those pockets fill up with buckthorn. I don’t think buckthorn has reached your place, yet, but I see some between your home and the hunting property. I think that if you would walk the property as soon as you get back, before the leaves emerge, would be a benefit. Carry an aerial photo or do it electronically, and document existing rubs and scrapes. Pay attention to the direction the rubs face and you can determine if they are morning or evening buck travel routes. Look for clusters of rubs in cover and determine if they are staging areas or a bedding area for a buck. Look at the size of the rubs to judge yearling buck areas against any potential mature buck trail. I would be sure of what you have and how it is being used, before dropping trees for bedding pockets. Just my opinion here, but the less trails you have that are wider than 30 inches the better it is. Bucks only need a trail wide enough to get their shoulders and their rack through. 24 inches is enough. Few bucks get wider racks than that. Sorry to ramble on so long. I just found the video interesting....perhaps for others. I don't plan to do allot of chainsaw work.....especially in the summer months......and I am not in MN in the winter. I am a bit too old and out of shape to want much chainsaw work anymore. Not enough days for me to operate my golf clubs and a chain saw too. I may cut some pockets in the popple with my cutter.....and I would like to work in some bedding areas near the numerous little waterholes Have......but I will need some help from grandson's or my SIL"s to do much of that work. I do have some natural blow down along my swamps and fair bedding situations...but more could be better. Mostly I just thought this video to be helpful to others. I subscribe to his channel because he has a Tar River conventional drill and is doing the no-till thing.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2022 8:58:14 GMT -6
Foggy, are you talking about cutting some of the popple regrowth or the pines that are left standing? Those pines are too big in my opinion for you or family to drop and probably too valuable. Cutting back those popple would create diversity in regrowth. Early in the video was a picture of the perimeter deer trail. It was narrow with one log visible across it. That would indicate it had little use or attractiveness to four wheelers and people on foot, which is a good thing. I don’t know if cutting back those young popple will create much horizontal cover as they rot very fast. You will get vertical cover from the regrowth. Some feel summer cutting of those popple causes less regrowth which you might be able to use to increase chances of a grassy pocket. Where I have created these pockets of dropped red cedars on my place, horizontal cover lasts for at least a decade. Cedars are slow to rot. Those pockets fill up with buckthorn. I don’t think buckthorn has reached your place, yet, but I see some between your home and the hunting property. I think that if you would walk the property as soon as you get back, before the leaves emerge, would be a benefit. Carry an aerial photo or do it electronically, and document existing rubs and scrapes. Pay attention to the direction the rubs face and you can determine if they are morning or evening buck travel routes. Look for clusters of rubs in cover and determine if they are staging areas or a bedding area for a buck. Look at the size of the rubs to judge yearling buck areas against any potential mature buck trail. I would be sure of what you have and how it is being used, before dropping trees for bedding pockets. Just my opinion here, but the less trails you have that are wider than 30 inches the better it is. Bucks only need a trail wide enough to get their shoulders and their rack through. 24 inches is enough. Few bucks get wider racks than that. Sorry to ramble on so long. I just found the video interesting....perhaps for others. I don't plan to do allot of chainsaw work.....especially in the summer months......and I am not in MN in the winter. I am a bit too old and out of shape to want much chainsaw work anymore. Not enough days for me to operate my golf clubs and a chain saw too. I may cut some pockets in the popple with my cutter.....and I would like to work in some bedding areas near the numerous little waterholes Have......but I will need some help from grandson's or my SIL"s to do much of that work. I do have some natural blow down along my swamps and fair bedding situations...but more could be better. Mostly I just thought this video to be helpful to others. I subscribe to his channel because he has a Tar River conventional drill and is doing the no-till thing.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2022 8:59:24 GMT -6
Foggy, are you talking about cutting some of the popple regrowth or the pines that are left standing? Those pines are too big in my opinion for you or family to drop and probably too valuable. Cutting back those popple would create diversity in regrowth. Early in the video was a picture of the perimeter deer trail. It was narrow with one log visible across it. That would indicate it had little use or attractiveness to four wheelers and people on foot, which is a good thing. I don’t know if cutting back those young popple will create much horizontal cover as they rot very fast. You will get vertical cover from the regrowth. Some feel summer cutting of those popple causes less regrowth which you might be able to use to increase chances of a grassy pocket. Where I have created these pockets of dropped red cedars on my place, horizontal cover lasts for at least a decade. Cedars are slow to rot. Those pockets fill up with buckthorn. I don’t think buckthorn has reached your place, yet, but I see some between your home and the hunting property. I think that if you would walk the property as soon as you get back, before the leaves emerge, would be a benefit. Carry an aerial photo or do it electronically, and document existing rubs and scrapes. Pay attention to the direction the rubs face and you can determine if they are morning or evening buck travel routes. Look for clusters of rubs in cover and determine if they are staging areas or a bedding area for a buck. Look at the size of the rubs to judge yearling buck areas against any potential mature buck trail. I would be sure of what you have and how it is being used, before dropping trees for bedding pockets. Just my opinion here, but the less trails you have that are wider than 30 inches the better it is. Bucks only need a trail wide enough to get their shoulders and their rack through. 24 inches is enough. Few bucks get wider racks than that. Sorry to ramble on so long. I just found the video interesting....perhaps for others. I don't plan to do allot of chainsaw work.....especially in the summer months......and I am not in MN in the winter. I am a bit too old and out of shape to want much chainsaw work anymore. Not enough days for me to operate my golf clubs and a chain saw too. I agree that some of the distances shown in this video seem to be quite tight. I may cut some pockets in the popple with my cutter.....and I would like to work in some bedding areas near the numerous little waterholes Have......but I will need some help from grandson's or my SIL"s to do much of that work. I do have some natural blow down along my swamps and fair bedding situations...but more could be better. Mostly I just thought this video to be helpful to others. I subscribe to his channel because he has a Tar River conventional drill and is doing the no-till thing.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2022 8:59:34 GMT -6
Foggy, are you talking about cutting some of the popple regrowth or the pines that are left standing? Those pines are too big in my opinion for you or family to drop and probably too valuable. Cutting back those popple would create diversity in regrowth. Early in the video was a picture of the perimeter deer trail. It was narrow with one log visible across it. That would indicate it had little use or attractiveness to four wheelers and people on foot, which is a good thing. I don’t know if cutting back those young popple will create much horizontal cover as they rot very fast. You will get vertical cover from the regrowth. Some feel summer cutting of those popple causes less regrowth which you might be able to use to increase chances of a grassy pocket. Where I have created these pockets of dropped red cedars on my place, horizontal cover lasts for at least a decade. Cedars are slow to rot. Those pockets fill up with buckthorn. I don’t think buckthorn has reached your place, yet, but I see some between your home and the hunting property. I think that if you would walk the property as soon as you get back, before the leaves emerge, would be a benefit. Carry an aerial photo or do it electronically, and document existing rubs and scrapes. Pay attention to the direction the rubs face and you can determine if they are morning or evening buck travel routes. Look for clusters of rubs in cover and determine if they are staging areas or a bedding area for a buck. Look at the size of the rubs to judge yearling buck areas against any potential mature buck trail. I would be sure of what you have and how it is being used, before dropping trees for bedding pockets. Just my opinion here, but the less trails you have that are wider than 30 inches the better it is. Bucks only need a trail wide enough to get their shoulders and their rack through. 24 inches is enough. Few bucks get wider racks than that. Sorry to ramble on so long. I just found the video interesting....perhaps for others. I don't plan to do allot of chainsaw work.....especially in the summer months......and I am not in MN in the winter. I am a bit too old and out of shape to want much chainsaw work anymore. Not enough days for me to operate my golf clubs and a chain saw too. I agree that some of the distances shown in this video seem to be quite tight. I may cut some pockets in the popple with my cutter.....and I would like to work in some bedding areas near the numerous little waterholes Have......but I will need some help from grandson's or my SIL"s to do much of that work. I do have some natural blow down along my swamps and fair bedding situations...but more could be better. Mostly I just thought this video to be helpful to others. I subscribe to his channel because he has a Tar River conventional drill and is doing the no-till thing.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2022 8:59:51 GMT -6
Foggy, are you talking about cutting some of the popple regrowth or the pines that are left standing? Those pines are too big in my opinion for you or family to drop and probably too valuable. Cutting back those popple would create diversity in regrowth. Early in the video was a picture of the perimeter deer trail. It was narrow with one log visible across it. That would indicate it had little use or attractiveness to four wheelers and people on foot, which is a good thing. I don’t know if cutting back those young popple will create much horizontal cover as they rot very fast. You will get vertical cover from the regrowth. Some feel summer cutting of those popple causes less regrowth which you might be able to use to increase chances of a grassy pocket. Where I have created these pockets of dropped red cedars on my place, horizontal cover lasts for at least a decade. Cedars are slow to rot. Those pockets fill up with buckthorn. I don’t think buckthorn has reached your place, yet, but I see some between your home and the hunting property. I think that if you would walk the property as soon as you get back, before the leaves emerge, would be a benefit. Carry an aerial photo or do it electronically, and document existing rubs and scrapes. Pay attention to the direction the rubs face and you can determine if they are morning or evening buck travel routes. Look for clusters of rubs in cover and determine if they are staging areas or a bedding area for a buck. Look at the size of the rubs to judge yearling buck areas against any potential mature buck trail. I would be sure of what you have and how it is being used, before dropping trees for bedding pockets. Just my opinion here, but the less trails you have that are wider than 30 inches the better it is. Bucks only need a trail wide enough to get their shoulders and their rack through. 24 inches is enough. Few bucks get wider racks than that. Sorry to ramble on so long. I just found the video interesting....perhaps for others. I don't plan to do allot of chainsaw work.....especially in the summer months......and I am not in MN in the winter. I am a bit too old and out of shape to want much chainsaw work anymore. Not enough days for me to operate my golf clubs and a chain saw too. I agree that some of the distances shown in this video seem to be quite tight. I may cut some pockets in the popple with my cutter.....and I would like to work in some bedding areas near the numerous little waterholes Have......but I will need some help from grandson's or my SIL"s to do much of that work. I do have some natural blow down along my swamps and fair bedding situations...but more could be better. Mostly I just thought this video to be helpful to others. I subscribe to his channel because he has a Tar River conventional drill and is doing the no-till thing.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2022 9:00:35 GMT -6
^ not sure what happened here?
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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2022 10:50:53 GMT -6
^ not sure what happened here? Don’t worry about it. As we get older, we often repeat ourselves!
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Post by smsmith on May 9, 2022 10:52:47 GMT -6
^ not sure what happened here? The forum was acting wonky most of the morning. Seems like things are back to normal now. As far as chainsaws and deer...they go great together
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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2022 10:54:59 GMT -6
I was actually pretty impressed that foggy could repeat his story five times and not change it. I doubt I could do that.
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Post by badgerfowl on May 9, 2022 10:57:27 GMT -6
^ not sure what happened here? Tourette's?
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Post by badgerfowl on May 9, 2022 10:58:37 GMT -6
^ not sure what happened here? Don’t worry about it. As we get older, we often repeat ourselves!
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