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Post by Sandbur on Jun 1, 2022 7:52:03 GMT -6
What is your summer release mix? Is it mostly for soil building and do you terminate summer release and plant a fall plot? Rye looks good. Green cover crop's summer release has a diverse mix which was created by Grant Woods on growing deer. It's got a few kinds of beans, sunflowers, buckwheat, and others. The have several of the "release" mixes that are touted by woods. Check them out. They now have a decent shipping process....but the real savings would be to get a "buying group" to cut the freight cost down bigly. I bought 1700 lbs of seed from them last fall.....so I didn't have to chase seed around in spring. Glad I did this....as my time has been limited this spring. I got my fall seed on this same shipment. Is there a large variety of seed sizes in that mix? Much adjusting on the no till planter?
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Post by Foggy on Jun 1, 2022 12:52:54 GMT -6
$85 / shipped for this mix currently. I bought for less last fall. Put down 40 lbs / acre with a drill. Variety below. This is the mix touted by Grant Woods at growing deer. They also have a fall release crop which is heavier on brassica. I do have my rye for next year.....not sure what I will do for clover and brassicas.
Lots of folks going this direction. Go to green cover crop website to see the mixes they offer.....or create your own blends. Pretty slick company......and they are doing a thing with Grant Woods. Sharp owners here.
Mix Info+ Ingredients Laredo Forage Soybeans, Cowpeas (Iron & Clay), Mung Beans, Balady Berseem Clover, Grain sorghum, Smart Radish, Trophy Rapeseed, Black Oil Sunflower, Mancan Buckwheat Planting Instructions Summer Release can be broadcast into areas with minimal plant competition such as a new plot or one where a seedbed has recently been prepared. Broadcasting just before a rain significantly increases seed survival and germination rates. With any crop, the best stands usually result from planting with a no till drill. If there’s adequate soil moisture simply planting the Summer Release blend 1/4” to 1/2” deep produces great results. Timing Seeding Rate Plant 40 pounds per acre when seeding with a no-till drill or other planting implement and 60+ pounds per acre when broadcasting.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 1, 2022 12:59:03 GMT -6
My tar river large seed hopper has a agitator feature.....but everyone claims you dont get much settling of seeds anyway. This is a concern to many....but not very real. I've done quite a few mods to my drill to get it up to my standards. Drag chains, alternate drop locations for small seed box, foam marker system, and more. Hope this effort pays off. My crimper has delivered. Nice kit. I'm hoping this Tar River Saya does eeverthing a far more expensive drill will do. Been working for me so far.....but I am improving on the small seed box and the success of the brassica and some clovers. Neat thing is you create your own mulch and fertilizer needs over time. Saves money / time / soil builder. 1/3 less seed when you drill.....just saying. What will I do with all the money I save? Grin
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Post by Foggy on Jun 1, 2022 17:32:45 GMT -6
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Post by Foggy on Jun 1, 2022 17:43:47 GMT -6
Here is that mount I made for the 12 volt foam marker. It plugs into my tractor and I can turn it on and off with a hand switch. Supposed to leave a foam 'blob" about every 6 feet. I think I did a nice mount.....with nozzles on both sides to show where you been. You can see one of the drop nozzles at the far corner of the drill. Hope this helps.
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 1, 2022 18:03:10 GMT -6
Be careful of fawns bedded out there.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 2, 2022 5:35:30 GMT -6
That looks great. I also like the regrowth after timber harvest. Will rolling/crimping smother that clover?
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Post by Foggy on Jun 2, 2022 7:13:22 GMT -6
^ It may set clover back a little....but that is the beauty of a roller crimper....it terminates long stemmy plants like rye and buckwheat and leaves the good stuff (and some of the bad) keep growing. Think of just stomping a 1/4" wide blade every 8". Not much damage occurs. .....'course I never used one.....so time will tell. What the blades do is to pinch off nutrients to the seed head of the rye by crimping the long stal.....while rolling the crop to cover the ground.....thus leaving a nice mulch to provide an armor for your soil, prevent weeds via allopathic of the rye....and retain moisture and release the nutrients they have scavaged for the next crop which is already growing. Beautiful. Terminate baby terminate. Art....you had better pay more attention in class.......or I'm gonna flunk you out here. .
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Post by badgerfowl on Jun 2, 2022 9:35:44 GMT -6
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Post by Freeborn on Jun 2, 2022 9:58:23 GMT -6
^ Your plot looks great and very healthy. Nice diverse mix should provide for allot of good browse.
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Post by badgerfowl on Jun 2, 2022 10:18:30 GMT -6
^ Your plot looks great and very healthy. Nice diverse mix should provide for allot of good browse. I'm glad I keep a plot log otherwise I'd forget what I put in there. It's got quite a variety of clovers in there. WTI Imperial Clover WTI Alfa Rack (can't say I've seen any alfalfa anywhere in it yet) Premium White Clover Mix (Deer Creek Seed) Alsike, white dutch, ladino, and new zealand white clovers. Triple Treat Annual Clover Mix (Deer Creek Seed) This had the crimson clover in it. Also balansa and berseem.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 2, 2022 16:08:12 GMT -6
^ It may set clover back a little....but that is the beauty of a roller crimper....it terminates long stemmy plants like rye and buckwheat and leaves the good stuff (and some of the bad) keep growing. Think of just stomping a 1/4" wide blade every 8". Not much damage occurs. .....'course I never used one.....so time will tell. What the blades do is to pinch off nutrients to the seed head of the rye by crimping the long stal.....while rolling the crop to cover the ground.....thus leaving a nice mulch to provide an armor for your soil, prevent weeds via allopathic of the rye....and retain moisture and release the nutrients they have scavaged for the next crop which is already growing. Beautiful. Terminate baby terminate. Art....you had better pay more attention in class.......or I'm gonna flunk you out here. . I flunked out of foodplotting a long time ago. I like letting my renter plant alfalfa and corn. He knows what he is doing.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 2, 2022 20:39:24 GMT -6
Planted two different mixes today. First I planted a buckwheat / Sunflower mix on some soil that can use some improvement. Was new ground last year.....poor soil. So now I have some rye, buckwheat and sunflower to let grow until August.....at which time I will determine what to do. I may just plant rye and perhaps some clover in fall....not sure. I suppose I panted 3 acres of this stuff. Then I planted another 5 acres with GCC Summer Release. Lots of guys using this mix now....as Grant Woods has promoted this. I drilled "green" into my rye / clover from last fall. The rye is as high as 24" inches now....and putting on height very quickly. I am guessing that I will be able to terminate this rye in late June......but need to keep an eye on the seed development and catch it in the "dough" stage before the seed becomes viable seed and roller/crimp that rye into mulch. (Lest I have a shit ton of out of control rye on my hands.). Then with that mulch / armor......I can plant my fall brassica / clover/ rye mix once more (a blend of about ten seeds). Rinse and repeat each year. Gotta add....that it is FAR, FAR easier to buy a mix of the needed seeds....and simply load your hopper....than try to blend 10 different seeds into a mix. Also....the combinations they have come up with are designed to work together to provide the right stuff for the following crops. Pretty slick....and quite affordable way to do this. I'm sold. Easy is a bonus. That first Pic is my way of calibrating my drill in an easy way.....that Genesis has NOTHING on this method.....grin. Some pics from today follow.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 2, 2022 20:46:32 GMT -6
Planted two different mixes today. First I planted a buckwheat / Sunflower mix on some soil that can use some improvement. Was new ground last year.....poor soil. So now I have some rye, buckwheat and sunflower to let grow until August.....at which time I will determine what to do. I may just plant rye and perhaps some clover in fall....not sure. I suppose I panted 3 acres of this stuff. Then I planted another 5 acres with GCC Summer Release. Lots of guys using this mix now....as Grant Woods has promoted this. I drilled "green" into my rye / clover from last fall. The rye is as high as 24" inches now....and putting on height very quickly. I am guessing that I will be able to terminate this rye in late June......but need to keep an eye on the seed development and catch it in the "dough" stage before the seed becomes viable seed and roller/crimp that rye into mulch. (Lest I have a shit ton of out of control rye on my hands.). Then with that mulch / armor......I can plant my fall brassica / clover/ rye mix once more (a blend of about ten seeds). Rinse and repeat each year. Gotta add....that it is FAR, FAR easier to buy a mix of the needed seeds....and simply load your hopper....than try to blend 10 different seeds into a mix. Also....the combinations they have come up with are designed to work together to provide the right stuff for the following crops. Pretty slick....and quite affordable way to do this. I'm sold. Easy is a bonus. That first Pic is my way of calibrating my drill in an easy way.....that Genesis has NOTHING on this method.....grin. Some pics from today follow. Tom, could you give the specifics of how sunflowers help the soil? When sunflowers were grown in the area about 15 miles north of you and 50 years ago, it was thought that sunflowers were hard on the light soil. And most often, large areas of the sunflowers were stripped by the deer.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 2, 2022 20:47:57 GMT -6
^. Art.....I think you are right on the sunflowers. I just wanted to try some....and it is likely not a good idea on the soils I put them on. my bad. I did throw in some radish and some old clover seeds to just get some action on this weak soil. In retrospect I should have held back on those sunflowers. Oh well.
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