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Post by Foggy on Jun 30, 2022 19:42:18 GMT -6
So....about 80% of my food plots are fairly weed free and have a good mulch of rye....and have decent clover, buckwheat, sorgum, beans, and other good stuff growing. ON THESE 8 ACRES ... I plan to plant a Green Cover Crop Brassica Plus Release into these 8 acres in mid July.(PTT / GHR/ Collards/Crimson Clover/ Balansa Clover) Then drill or possibly broadcast 100 # / acre of rye in early September (depending on weather).
The issue I have is that about 2 acres of my worst ground grew pretty good rye....but it's become overcome with weeds. (lots of hawkweed and something similar that is white flowers). I do not think I should try to resurrect this. I think I need to build this crappy soils more. These acres have not been amended to any extent with lime or fertilizer in the past (as I have on my other land - these parcels are "under development"). My current plan is to mow this down....then nuke it with round up (maybe twice?) and start over but just plant buckwheat ASAP....hope that takes......and follow that up in September with rye.....and maybe some cheap clover. Just try to build this soil a bit more.....and possibly lime it next year when time allows.
Any ideas for a better way to do this? Thanks for any inputs.
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Post by Freeborn on Jun 30, 2022 19:58:06 GMT -6
So....about 80% of my food plots are fairly weed free and have a good mulch of rye....and have decent clover, buckwheat, sorgum, beans, and other good stuff growing. ON THESE 8 ACRES ... I plan to plant a Green Cover Crop Brassica Plus Release into these 8 acres in mid July.(PTT / GHR/ Collards/Crimson Clover/ Balansa Clover) Then drill or possibly broadcast 100 # / acre of rye in early September (depending on weather). The issue I have is that about 2 acres of my worst ground grew pretty good rye....but it's become overcome with weeds. (lots of hawkweed and something similar that is white flowers). I do not think I should try to resurrect this. I think I need to build this crappy soils more. These acres have not been amended to any extent with lime or fertilizer in the past (as I have on my other land - these parcels are "under development"). My current plan is to mow this down....then nuke it with round up (maybe twice?) and start over but just plant buckwheat ASAP....hope that takes......and follow that up in September with rye.....and maybe some cheap clover. Just try to build this soil a bit more.....and possibly lime it next year when time allows. Any ideas for a better way to do this? Thanks for any inputs. I think your plan is good. The buckwheat and rye should smother the weeds. I would probably skip the clover but that’s just me. |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 30, 2022 21:15:09 GMT -6
So....about 80% of my food plots are fairly weed free and have a good mulch of rye....and have decent clover, buckwheat, sorgum, beans, and other good stuff growing. ON THESE 8 ACRES ... I plan to plant a Green Cover Crop Brassica Plus Release into these 8 acres in mid July.(PTT / GHR/ Collards/Crimson Clover/ Balansa Clover) Then drill or possibly broadcast 100 # / acre of rye in early September (depending on weather). The issue I have is that about 2 acres of my worst ground grew pretty good rye....but it's become overcome with weeds. (lots of hawkweed and something similar that is white flowers). I do not think I should try to resurrect this. I think I need to build this crappy soils more. These acres have not been amended to any extent with lime or fertilizer in the past (as I have on my other land - these parcels are "under development"). My current plan is to mow this down....then nuke it with round up (maybe twice?) and start over but just plant buckwheat ASAP....hope that takes......and follow that up in September with rye.....and maybe some cheap clover. Just try to build this soil a bit more.....and possibly lime it next year when time allows. Any ideas for a better way to do this? Thanks for any inputs. I think your plan is good. The buckwheat and rye should smother the weeds. I would probably skip the clover but that’s just me. Yep. I think I need to get some lime on these plots. Just old pine plantations....and I know they are not good ph. May bite the bullet and buy a trailer load. |
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 1, 2022 10:58:55 GMT -6
I think your plan is a good one. I would probably throw in some oats and maybe a little brassica seed as well. Seeds are relatively cheap and you never know what will grow best for one reason or another.
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Post by Sandbur on Jul 3, 2022 10:03:25 GMT -6
So....about 80% of my food plots are fairly weed free and have a good mulch of rye....and have decent clover, buckwheat, sorgum, beans, and other good stuff growing. ON THESE 8 ACRES ... I plan to plant a Green Cover Crop Brassica Plus Release into these 8 acres in mid July.(PTT / GHR/ Collards/Crimson Clover/ Balansa Clover) Then drill or possibly broadcast 100 # / acre of rye in early September (depending on weather). The issue I have is that about 2 acres of my worst ground grew pretty good rye....but it's become overcome with weeds. (lots of hawkweed and something similar that is white flowers). I do not think I should try to resurrect this. I think I need to build this crappy soils more. These acres have not been amended to any extent with lime or fertilizer in the past (as I have on my other land - these parcels are "under development"). My current plan is to mow this down....then nuke it with round up (maybe twice?) and start over but just plant buckwheat ASAP....hope that takes......and follow that up in September with rye.....and maybe some cheap clover. Just try to build this soil a bit more.....and possibly lime it next year when time allows. Any ideas for a better way to do this? Thanks for any inputs. Lime, sulfur, rye, and red clover if we can get some rain in the fall. |
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Post by Sandbur on Jul 3, 2022 10:05:14 GMT -6
Foggy, does mammoth red clover and turning it under in the spring fit your plan? Would the tillage move the lime and sulfur into the soil profile at a faster rate?
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Post by Foggy on Jul 3, 2022 10:28:39 GMT -6
Foggy, does mammoth red clover and turning it under in the spring fit your plan? Would the tillage move the lime and sulfur into the soil profile at a faster rate? Possibly. I do now have red clover and some others going into my plots. (crimson and balaca). They all do good things....but I refrain from tilling it under. Instead it will terminate itself (Or I will use either the crimper or chemicals) and leave the roots and plant matter in the ground. Said to prevent the soil from drying out and stores that moisture and micro fungi, etc. Same goes for the mulch left on top of the ground....preserves the moisture needed when that sand gets a bit dry. Not going down that tillage rabbit hole.....if I can help it. No more "plow down" or disk down for me. |
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Post by Sandbur on Jul 3, 2022 10:31:23 GMT -6
Foggy, does mammoth red clover and turning it under in the spring fit your plan? Would the tillage move the lime and sulfur into the soil profile at a faster rate? Possibly. I do now have red clover and some others going into my plots. (crimson and balaca). They all do good things....but I refrain from tilling it under. Instead it will terminate itself (Or I will use either the crimper or chemicals) and leave the roots and plant matter in the ground. Said to prevent the soil from drying out and stores that moisture and micro fungi, etc. Same goes for the mulch left on top of the ground....preserves the moisture needed when that sand gets a bit dry. Not going down that tillage rabbit hole.....if I can help it. No more "plow down" or disk down for me. I know that is not your present plan. I had one organic farmer who liked the mammoth red clover for organic matter. I believe mammoth is only a one year crop. |
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