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Post by smsmith on Aug 6, 2022 18:53:35 GMT -6
There was quite a bit of discussion back on the old forum about Falcata alfalfa. I haven't seen falcata being brought up on any of the forums I read for quite a while.
Anybody experiment with the stuff? I'm thinking about buying 5-10 lbs. and seeing what becomes of it in my clover/alfalfa plots.
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 6, 2022 21:24:09 GMT -6
That was a long time ago. QDMA days?
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Post by smsmith on Aug 7, 2022 7:52:02 GMT -6
That was a long time ago. QDMA days? Yep. I'm kind of surprised none of the habitat guys have tried to push the stuff. I suppose the high cost of seed is at least part of why that may be. Falcalta alfalfa and kura clover were discussed a lot back then. There's been research/advancement with kura...Aberlasting clover is available in the U.S.. It's a hybrid of kura and white clover. New Zealand does most of the research on clover it seems. They have other kura hybrid clovers available there, I imagine it's just a matter of time until they hit the U.S. market.
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Post by caveman on Aug 7, 2022 9:40:56 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Aug 7, 2022 9:58:42 GMT -6
Falcata originated in Siberia, it's winter hardy. I know they're growing it in zone 3/4 areas of the mountains/foothills out west. From the article you posted (good one, thanks) "In the conclusion of their study, Brand announced that Grimm alfalfa was a natural cross between the common purple blossom alfalfa, Medicago sativa, and a wild yellow blossom species, Medicago falcata, which originated in Asia." I'm betting the winter hardiness came from Medicago falcata (Falcata alfalfa)
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 7, 2022 20:59:11 GMT -6
That was a long time ago. QDMA days? Yep. I'm kind of surprised none of the habitat guys have tried to push the stuff. I suppose the high cost of seed is at least part of why that may be. Falcalta alfalfa and kura clover were discussed a lot back then. There's been research/advancement with kura...Aberlasting clover is available in the U.S.. It's a hybrid of kura and white clover. New Zealand does most of the research on clover it seems. They have other kura hybrid clovers available there, I imagine it's just a matter of time until they hit the U.S. market. do you have some kura growing? It seems like I tried a bit once. Maybe I got the seed from you.
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Post by caveman on Aug 7, 2022 22:18:47 GMT -6
Looked at a couple of sites selling Falcata. They stated there were better options available for places that get more than 16 inches of precip yearly. Got to think that is most everywhere guys try to plot. Might be the reason for the low sales pitch.
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 8, 2022 2:36:02 GMT -6
Looked at a couple of sites selling Falcata. They stated there were better options available for places that get more than 16 inches of precip yearly. Got to think that is most everywhere guys try to plot. Might be the reason for the low sales pitch. If my memory is correct, that was one of the selling points. It seemed to survive for many years with the low rainfall.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 8, 2022 9:45:28 GMT -6
Yep. I'm kind of surprised none of the habitat guys have tried to push the stuff. I suppose the high cost of seed is at least part of why that may be. Falcalta alfalfa and kura clover were discussed a lot back then. There's been research/advancement with kura...Aberlasting clover is available in the U.S.. It's a hybrid of kura and white clover. New Zealand does most of the research on clover it seems. They have other kura hybrid clovers available there, I imagine it's just a matter of time until they hit the U.S. market. do you have some kura growing? It seems like I tried a bit once. Maybe I got the seed from you. No Kura here. I did have some on the old place.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 8, 2022 9:48:05 GMT -6
Looked at a couple of sites selling Falcata. They stated there were better options available for places that get more than 16 inches of precip yearly. Got to think that is most everywhere guys try to plot. Might be the reason for the low sales pitch. Yep, for guys growing alfalfa to feed livestock falcata doesn't make sense unless you have no other option. For a foodplot guy, if you could get a plot of falcata established (I used to think a plot of falcata and kura would be ideal) and feed it some lime every few years you'd be about "done". Its longevity is what is appealing to me.
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