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Post by Sandbur on Feb 2, 2024 14:43:15 GMT -6
I didn’t harvest the popple but just dropped them a number of years back. There are lots of rubs in there.
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 2, 2024 14:45:35 GMT -6
I didn’t harvest the popple but just dropped them a number of years back. There are lots of rubs in there. I did plant some spruce in the popple cut and did release them at least twice. The popple cut is also adjacent to two older groups of spruce plantings.
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Post by nhmountains on Feb 2, 2024 23:21:14 GMT -6
Just scheduled a walk thru with the State forester for our county to do a walk thru to get the ball rolling on a timber harvest on Feb 20th. After the walk thru they will recommend a private forester and let me know any programs that might be available. Good job Tom. When you decide on a forester and then they recommend some loggers, I’d ask them for some local jobs that have been done or are currently doing and go visit them.
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Post by ruttin1 on Feb 7, 2024 4:10:06 GMT -6
Just scheduled a walk thru with the State forester for our county to do a walk thru to get the ball rolling on a timber harvest on Feb 20th. After the walk thru they will recommend a private forester and let me know any programs that might be available. How many acres are you planning on having cut? Select cut? What species trees? I’ll be curious to follow along as we are pretty close to each other (I think). I’m a few years away from a cut, but know little about the process.
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Post by terrifictom on Feb 7, 2024 8:37:38 GMT -6
Just scheduled a walk thru with the State forester for our county to do a walk thru to get the ball rolling on a timber harvest on Feb 20th. After the walk thru they will recommend a private forester and let me know any programs that might be available. How many acres are you planning on having cut? Select cut? What species trees? I’ll be curious to follow along as we are pretty close to each other (I think). I’m a few years away from a cut, but know little about the process. I have about 20 to 25 acres of woods. I have hard maple, soft maple, aspen, balsam, some oak which won't be cut, and about an acre of red pine. I also have several acres of tag alder that I hear there is a program to get it clipped to benefit grouse and wood cock. I also have some Tamarac that might have some value. Looking at a select cut.
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Post by ruttin1 on Feb 7, 2024 16:37:08 GMT -6
How many acres are you planning on having cut? Select cut? What species trees? I’ll be curious to follow along as we are pretty close to each other (I think). I’m a few years away from a cut, but know little about the process. I have about 20 to 25 acres of woods. I have hard maple, soft maple, aspen, balsam, some oak which won't be cut, and about an acre of red pine. I also have several acres of tag alder that I hear there is a program to get it clipped to benefit grouse and wood cock. I also have some Tamarac that might have some value. Looking at a select cut. I have 33 acres of mostly Sugar Maple, some silver maple, red oak, yellow birch, and a few giant Hemlocks. Let us know who you go with and how it goes.
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Post by ruttin1 on Feb 7, 2024 16:42:27 GMT -6
Interesting side note: The neighbor to my north has about 20 acres that butt up against my land. He has had a single logger in there since last summer cutting trees with a chain saw and using a draught horse to skid the logs out to the field for stacking. He was still going at it a couple weeks ago last I was up there. You could hear him felling trees and talking to the horse while sitting in the tree stand all fall.
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Post by nhmountains on Feb 7, 2024 17:47:23 GMT -6
Interesting side note: The neighbor to my north has about 20 acres that butt up against my land. He has had a single logger in there since last summer cutting trees with a chain saw and using a draught horse to skid the logs out to the field for stacking. He was still going at it a couple weeks ago last I was up there. You could hear him felling trees and talking to the horse while sitting in the tree stand all fall. Depending upon the type and size of trees that may be a good way to go but, I found talking to 3 different foresters that if you want oak and sugar maple regeneration you need to cut enough to provide a lot of sunlight. Otherwise the low light trees like red maple, beech, birch will probably out grow them. Walk around in the thicker timber and see what’s there for undergrowth. If you don’t cut enough then you will get the lower light loving trees. If you’re thinning for better timber and leaving something for the future that’s a different story.
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 7, 2024 19:46:25 GMT -6
Interesting side note: The neighbor to my north has about 20 acres that butt up against my land. He has had a single logger in there since last summer cutting trees with a chain saw and using a draught horse to skid the logs out to the field for stacking. He was still going at it a couple weeks ago last I was up there. You could hear him felling trees and talking to the horse while sitting in the tree stand all fall. If the landowner and logger are splitting it 50/50, I don’t think that would be the way to go. If a logger works 6 months on 20 acres, they would need to be super high value walnuts to make it worth that amount of time.
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Post by ruttin1 on Feb 7, 2024 20:42:12 GMT -6
Interesting side note: The neighbor to my north has about 20 acres that butt up against my land. He has had a single logger in there since last summer cutting trees with a chain saw and using a draught horse to skid the logs out to the field for stacking. He was still going at it a couple weeks ago last I was up there. You could hear him felling trees and talking to the horse while sitting in the tree stand all fall. If the landowner and logger are splitting it 50/50, I don’t think that would be the way to go. If a logger works 6 months on 20 acres, they would need to be super high value walnuts to make it worth that amount of time. Mostly Sugar Maple like mine. I’ll have to ask the farmer when I get a chance to talk to him. Certainly not the most efficient way to do it.
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Post by nhmountains on Feb 7, 2024 23:31:00 GMT -6
If the landowner and logger are splitting it 50/50, I don’t think that would be the way to go. If a logger works 6 months on 20 acres, they would need to be super high value walnuts to make it worth that amount of time. Mostly Sugar Maple like mine. I’ll have to ask the farmer when I get a chance to talk to him. Certainly not the most efficient way to do it. There’s a small 18 acre parcel near me that’s being harvested with a small skidder and dozer. They started in late October just before my harvest in mid November. They finished logging my land in mid January. Mine was 60+/- acres. They are still cutting on that 18 acre parcel. They are select cutting. They way they are going it would’ve taken a good year to do my land. The modern machinery can cut and move a lot of timber but, they need more trails that are wider, damage some trees pulling logs, cut a lot of smaller trees that a selective cut wouldn’t touch (to allow the machinery to get to the timber trees) , and won’t attempt parcels that aren’t profitable for them. The best advice I can give is start with a state or county forester. Tell them your goals. They’ll give you an idea of what to expect. They should give you a few professional foresters to consult. They can come up with a few loggers that will fit your goals if there’s enough timber to make it worthwhile. Here’s a forester in Ohio looking at potential timber harvest properties. Not every property is going to be a match. If not then you may have to deal with finding a logger who may control more of the profits.
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Post by terrifictom on Feb 20, 2024 19:34:50 GMT -6
I met with the State DNR forester today. She was very knowledgeable. She asked what I wanted to accomplish. As we were walking she explained the species and why they were growing in certain areas of our land. Her recommendations was to clear cut one area and let it regen with aspen. The other area that is predominately hardwoods would be a very selective cut, cutting the ash and a few other unwanted trees out. The next step is to get a private forester.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 6, 2024 13:53:27 GMT -6
Plans had been to thin this pine plantation and harvest some over ripe popple this last winter. There wasn’t enough frost to access the popple, so the harvest will wait. The pines are pretty well spaced out and another year won’t hurt. I used to fly a kite out here, when this was a field. Pines were planted in the 60’s.
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Post by benmnwi on Mar 6, 2024 14:10:15 GMT -6
How many acres is that pine stand? It looks like mostly red pines, but are there a few other spruce or white pines mixed in? Did you do some prior thinning on that stand? The trees look pretty good and are self pruned really nicely like they had a little more competition at some point.
I really like how those mature pine stands look, but they probably aren't the best wildlife habitat.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 6, 2024 15:04:43 GMT -6
How many acres is that pine stand? It looks like mostly red pines, but are there a few other spruce or white pines mixed in? Did you do some prior thinning on that stand? The trees look pretty good and are self pruned really nicely like they had a little more competition at some point. I really like how those mature pine stands look, but they probably aren't the best wildlife habitat. They we’re thinned and there were two harvests. Originally, white spruce were planted, but few survived. Some pruning of lower limbs was done decades ago. I would guess 3-4 acres. There is another plantation of 36 acres that isn’t quite as nice.
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