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Post by Satchmo on Apr 16, 2017 3:29:34 GMT -6
Rye is my main staple grain in 3b. It's never failed me and the deer gobble it up. I have mixed in a bag of wheat, winter wheat, peas, sunflowers, radish, turnips, or chicory just for variety. In my completely non-ag area the deer will eat it all, but they seem to prefer straight rye and it is my late season insurance.
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Post by badbrad on Apr 16, 2017 6:40:02 GMT -6
You want the best of all do a wheat ,oats rye mix with winter peas mixed in for candy. When do you plant it and what seeding rates do you use? |
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Post by terrifictom on Apr 16, 2017 7:13:00 GMT -6
You want the best of all do a wheat ,oats rye mix with winter peas mixed in for candy. When do you plant it and what seeding rates do you use? Labor Day weekend. 50 pounds winter wheat, 50 pounds oats, 50 pounds winter rye and 40 to 80 pounds of winter peas. This will do 1 to 2 acres. |
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Post by wiscwhip on Apr 16, 2017 9:15:06 GMT -6
That ^^ is a great mix and should suit you well Brad, especially for the earlier part of bow season. It should get the does coming to your plots and hopefully that carries over to the rut.
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Post by wildfire123 on Apr 16, 2017 10:36:54 GMT -6
Fortunately the people that farm our land, have all the corn, beans, and rye at no cost.
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Post by Tooln on Apr 17, 2017 1:27:10 GMT -6
When do you plant it and what seeding rates do you use? Labor Day weekend. 50 pounds winter wheat, 50 pounds oats, 50 pounds winter rye and 40 to 80 pounds of winter peas. This will do 1 to 2 acres. What do you have in the plot before that? |
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Post by Tooln on Apr 17, 2017 1:30:11 GMT -6
My deer don't care for radishes or turnip's. I've been thinking of an early buckwheat and then a fall grain mix this year.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 17, 2017 4:17:45 GMT -6
Rye with about 1/3 oats works for me. WW had little use by me.
I feel these rye cover crops are a boon for our wintering deer.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 17, 2017 6:28:52 GMT -6
^ That is a good mix Art. Gives me a new product idea. Gonna get some big bags printed with a big 'ole deer on the bag......and name it "Foggy's Forage Oats N Rye Blend". Likely get it blended from the Rye growers assn over at Wadena. Sell it for about $50 a bag or so. Can you do all the work and send me the profits on this venture Art?  Seriously, I think there are a few blends of oats/rye/ww out there. Usually about 1/3 of each......and the do sell at a fairly high price considering the seed costs involved. (of course then there is always Buck Forrage Oats....grin). I cannot remember the name for the blend.... |
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Post by terrifictom on Apr 17, 2017 6:49:38 GMT -6
Labor Day weekend. 50 pounds winter wheat, 50 pounds oats, 50 pounds winter rye and 40 to 80 pounds of winter peas. This will do 1 to 2 acres. What do you have in the plot before that? I used this mix when I was 1st starting out, recovering an old pasture that had not been used in quite a few years before I bought land. I was spraying and killing off the vegetation in summer, along with amending soil. Paul Knox was the one that recommended the blend to me. He told me that the deer would tell me what they liked and that after a year or two, I could adjust the mix to match what the deer wanted. You could use spring planted buckwheat before or add cheap clover to the grain mix and till it under the next year. The only reason I don't use this mix any more is because I am up north helping the bear guide out during the time when this mix should be planted. |
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Post by terrifictom on Apr 17, 2017 6:54:44 GMT -6
I should of said too, that the mix is really easy to grow. If you have fairly clean surface all you have to do is broadcast seed and lightly disc or drag. You can cultipac after but not necessary.
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Post by terrifictom on Apr 17, 2017 7:21:30 GMT -6
A few pics. The grain mix is on the left close to tree line.  Close up.  Deer using the mix.  free cdn image hosting |
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 18, 2017 4:56:44 GMT -6
What happens to fall planted winter wheat the next spring? Does it die or does it green up like winter the? Green Winter rye here is the first to green up and provide a transition between browse and when things finally green up.
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Post by terrifictom on Apr 18, 2017 5:49:42 GMT -6
What happens to fall planted winter wheat the next spring? Does it die or does it green up like winter the? Green Winter rye here is the first to green up and provide a transition between browse and when things finally green up. It stays green under snow and grows in spring just like winter rye. The only one that dies out is oats. The winter peas can survive if the deer don't eat them all or if they have enough snow cover and mild temperatures. |
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2017 6:39:12 GMT -6
What happens to fall planted winter wheat the next spring? Does it die or does it green up like winter the? Green Winter rye here is the first to green up and provide a transition between browse and when things finally green up. It stays green all winter and will add growth whenever the temps warm up a little. In the spring it pops up quickly and starts to head out. I know a lot of critters (deer included) like to eat the seed which ripens early July here. I'm trying awn-less wheat this yr to see if the heads are more attractive without the sticky stuff on them. |
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