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Post by wiscwhip on Feb 8, 2018 12:23:37 GMT -6
That is your best post yet! I first read this quote when I was in my 20's. It's served me well. So you were there when he gave the live speech then?
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Post by leexrayshady on Feb 9, 2018 11:50:29 GMT -6
I fear the republican party just drove a stake into any hope of having a decent defense for the mid terms coming up, For Years they were the debt hawks, now once in power we get this huge spending bill with their names on it. Will be hard to explain to the voters.
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 9, 2018 12:09:23 GMT -6
I called an end to the crashing today. Pushed the rest of my chips to the center to bet on the boom from here. For you prudent market guys, this usually means in the next 2-3 trading days, the exact opposite of what I've just bet on will happen.
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Post by Reagan on Feb 9, 2018 12:09:26 GMT -6
Republicans spent like idiots when they had control with W.
Nothing new today.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Feb 9, 2018 13:32:04 GMT -6
I have made a bundle on SIRI Sirius Satellite Radio... bought in at .25-.65 it's now $5. I still like it, 25 million users, might be more now. A target for buyout. Just wish I would have bought twice as much Didn't I hear they are looking to take over Pandora?? I think Sirius XM bought around 25% of Pandora.........The largest shareholder of Sirius XM is John Malone (Liberty Media) who has a corporate office Denver, Colorado. He owns several large ranches and is the largest individual private landowner in the US (2.1 million acres)... Your insignificant fact for the day ( )
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 9, 2018 14:52:48 GMT -6
Thought ted turner was?
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Post by Bwoods11 on Feb 9, 2018 15:05:43 GMT -6
Ted Turner is second now, and I heard you are third (LOL)
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Post by Foggy on Feb 9, 2018 21:26:44 GMT -6
^. Yep....but owning allot of that range land is like owning allot of turds. Not much value in some of them acres.....unless they find uranium or gold or gas, etc. Lots of folks been burned on mass quantities of range land. ......and lots of folks been made overnight millionaires too.
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Post by Foggy on Feb 9, 2018 21:42:10 GMT -6
From the folks that do my planning..........
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February 9, 2018 Increased Volatility, Yet Continued Strength While volatility products can claim a large share of the responsibility for Monday’s downturn in equity markets, yesterday’s session showed that interest rates still influence the pricing of risky assets. Officials at the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve indicated that they would not alter the course of tighter monetary policy as a result of the recent sell-off. That was enough to push U.S. indices back to the lows hit earlier in the week. As we noted recently, the U.S. economy is nearly nine years into a recovery. The Federal Reserve is over two years into a cycle of rate tightening, which is the longest period of policy tightening since the late 1970s. Just as we believe that business cycle forecasts should not be made with a calendar, much the same can be said about monetary cycles. In our view it is more important to look at where the Fed has targeted short-term rates in relation to the current level of inflation. When looked at this way, the current tightening cycle is “young” and monetary conditions also remain very accommodative. Today’s target rate of 1.5% is exactly the same as the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation. We thought it would be instructive to look at other “early stage tightening cycles” where the Fed has pivoted to address emerging resource constraints that result from economic recovery. Over the last 25 years, the U.S. has seen at least two similar episodes of early tightening (1994 and 2004) where the Fed raised rates into a strengthening economic environment. In both cases, the Fed’s moves led bond markets to push longer-term yields higher and equity markets lower.
Fortunately for markets, GDP momentum and corporate earnings growth are also features of early stage tightening cycles. By the end of 1994, market returns were flat but corporate profits were growing at over 15% and set the stage for a much stronger return environment in the coming quarters. By mid-2005, trailing 12-month equity returns were running below 5%, but real GDP was averaging in excess of 3% and corporate profits were again over 15%. Markets stabilized and moved into double-digit gains shortly thereafter. To reiterate our message from earlier this week, bear markets are not usually the result of positive indicators of economic expansion and earnings growth. We would also note that cycles do not typically end with the Fed in an accommodative posture. What is normal is higher volatility than experienced over the last several years and uncertainty that results from markets factoring in higher rates coincident with a stronger economy. We believe it is too soon to become bearish given the fundamental economic strength.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 10, 2018 0:03:19 GMT -6
^. Yep....but owning allot of that range land is like owning allot of turds. Not much value in some of them acres.....unless they find uranium or gold or gas, etc. Lots of folks been burned on mass quantities of range land. ......and lots of folks been made overnight millionaires too. It’s called taking a calculated risk. It worked for you Foggy!
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 10, 2018 0:05:55 GMT -6
From the folks that do my planning.......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- February 9, 2018 Increased Volatility, Yet Continued Strength While volatility products can claim a large share of the responsibility for Monday’s downturn in equity markets, yesterday’s session showed that interest rates still influence the pricing of risky assets. Officials at the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve indicated that they would not alter the course of tighter monetary policy as a result of the recent sell-off. That was enough to push U.S. indices back to the lows hit earlier in the week. As we noted recently, the U.S. economy is nearly nine years into a recovery. The Federal Reserve is over two years into a cycle of rate tightening, which is the longest period of policy tightening since the late 1970s. Just as we believe that business cycle forecasts should not be made with a calendar, much the same can be said about monetary cycles. In our view it is more important to look at where the Fed has targeted short-term rates in relation to the current level of inflation. When looked at this way, the current tightening cycle is “young” and monetary conditions also remain very accommodative. Today’s target rate of 1.5% is exactly the same as the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation. We thought it would be instructive to look at other “early stage tightening cycles” where the Fed has pivoted to address emerging resource constraints that result from economic recovery. Over the last 25 years, the U.S. has seen at least two similar episodes of early tightening (1994 and 2004) where the Fed raised rates into a strengthening economic environment. In both cases, the Fed’s moves led bond markets to push longer-term yields higher and equity markets lower. Fortunately for markets, GDP momentum and corporate earnings growth are also features of early stage tightening cycles. By the end of 1994, market returns were flat but corporate profits were growing at over 15% and set the stage for a much stronger return environment in the coming quarters. By mid-2005, trailing 12-month equity returns were running below 5%, but real GDP was averaging in excess of 3% and corporate profits were again over 15%. Markets stabilized and moved into double-digit gains shortly thereafter. To reiterate our message from earlier this week, bear markets are not usually the result of positive indicators of economic expansion and earnings growth. We would also note that cycles do not typically end with the Fed in an accommodative posture. What is normal is higher volatility than experienced over the last several years and uncertainty that results from markets factoring in higher rates coincident with a stronger economy. We believe it is too soon to become bearish given the fundamental economic strength. All bullshit! The market goes where the big boys want it too!
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Post by Freeborn on Feb 10, 2018 2:44:39 GMT -6
From the folks that do my planning.......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- February 9, 2018 Increased Volatility, Yet Continued Strength While volatility products can claim a large share of the responsibility for Monday’s downturn in equity markets, yesterday’s session showed that interest rates still influence the pricing of risky assets. Officials at the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve indicated that they would not alter the course of tighter monetary policy as a result of the recent sell-off. That was enough to push U.S. indices back to the lows hit earlier in the week. As we noted recently, the U.S. economy is nearly nine years into a recovery. The Federal Reserve is over two years into a cycle of rate tightening, which is the longest period of policy tightening since the late 1970s. Just as we believe that business cycle forecasts should not be made with a calendar, much the same can be said about monetary cycles. In our view it is more important to look at where the Fed has targeted short-term rates in relation to the current level of inflation. When looked at this way, the current tightening cycle is “young” and monetary conditions also remain very accommodative. Today’s target rate of 1.5% is exactly the same as the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation. We thought it would be instructive to look at other “early stage tightening cycles” where the Fed has pivoted to address emerging resource constraints that result from economic recovery. Over the last 25 years, the U.S. has seen at least two similar episodes of early tightening (1994 and 2004) where the Fed raised rates into a strengthening economic environment. In both cases, the Fed’s moves led bond markets to push longer-term yields higher and equity markets lower. Fortunately for markets, GDP momentum and corporate earnings growth are also features of early stage tightening cycles. By the end of 1994, market returns were flat but corporate profits were growing at over 15% and set the stage for a much stronger return environment in the coming quarters. By mid-2005, trailing 12-month equity returns were running below 5%, but real GDP was averaging in excess of 3% and corporate profits were again over 15%. Markets stabilized and moved into double-digit gains shortly thereafter. To reiterate our message from earlier this week, bear markets are not usually the result of positive indicators of economic expansion and earnings growth. We would also note that cycles do not typically end with the Fed in an accommodative posture. What is normal is higher volatility than experienced over the last several years and uncertainty that results from markets factoring in higher rates coincident with a stronger economy. We believe it is too soon to become bearish given the fundamental economic strength. Yep, short run volatility but long term gains. Seems the markets are behaving more as they had historically compared to the quantitative easing we have seen sense the great recession. Better bond yields/interest rates is a good thing and should provide some better returns in instruments other than equities. If rates were a little better maybe we can get better income with less risk.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 10, 2018 8:12:57 GMT -6
The good thing of this 10% decline is, it gives a great buying opportunity for guys waiting on the sidelines to throw some money at the markets. It may not have come at a better time for this cowboy if I don’t find some land in a few days!
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 10, 2018 9:16:51 GMT -6
The good thing of this 10% decline is, it gives a great buying opportunity for guys waiting on the sidelines to throw some money at the markets. It may not have come at a better time for this cowboy if I don’t find some land in a few days! The hard part is, these things come fast and hard and they're over before ya know it. I keep a crash view handy in my TD account so I can quickly see who has fallen the most. Saves a shitpot of time vs trying to research each company. Here's what's happened this past 6 trading days and how I used it to fish some deals outta the dumpster.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 11, 2018 6:04:08 GMT -6
With the US now producing almost as much oil as the Arabs, one would think oil should come down in price? Or will they follow Opec to the tee and artificially keep inflating prices?
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