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Post by gsquared23 on Jan 27, 2019 10:17:45 GMT -6
So is the tree possibly extinct or do you know of other sources?
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 27, 2019 16:16:14 GMT -6
The Montezuma Orchard group searches for old and lost apples from Colorado. Yes they thought it was an extinct apple but, I guess there was an old apple tree somewhere out there and the owner said it was a Colorado Orange. It looks like the old hand drawn photos from back then so it’s a mystery still.
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Post by buckvelvet on Jan 27, 2019 16:42:02 GMT -6
Id take another scion of this if available, storage issues and 1 bad graft took all i had 2 years ago.
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 27, 2019 17:18:44 GMT -6
Id take another scion of this if available, storage issues and 1 bad graft took all i had 2 years ago. I’ll see what I can do. The ones I planted in my main orchard didn’t grow much because of the drought we had last year. I think I have one I overwintered at home that I can get one from. I know I’ll have plenty next year as one I topworked took and should grow a lot this year. Are you bench grafting or top working?
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Post by buckvelvet on Jan 28, 2019 7:43:33 GMT -6
I had gotten scion from Louis 'Lucky Pittman' & Jim Bastian but those scions had a rough life leading up to grafting time. The bummer part is it took me 2 years to get the scion from them.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 28, 2019 7:53:34 GMT -6
I had gotten scion from Louis 'Lucky Pittman' & Jim Bastian but those scions had a rough life leading up to grafting time. The bummer part is it took me 2 years to get the scion from them. I think I have Bastians orange fleshed crab that finally started to grow. It stood still for a long time. I need to look closely again that growth is above the graft.
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Post by buckvelvet on Jan 28, 2019 7:55:19 GMT -6
I had gotten scion from Louis 'Lucky Pittman' & Jim Bastian but those scions had a rough life leading up to grafting time. The bummer part is it took me 2 years to get the scion from them. I think I have Bastians orange fleshed crab that finally started to grow. It stood still for a long time. I need to look closely again that growth is above the graft. I hope for your sake it did Art, that wood is hard to come by.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 28, 2019 15:58:41 GMT -6
I think I have Bastians orange fleshed crab that finally started to grow. It stood still for a long time. I need to look closely again that growth is above the graft. I hope for your sake it did Art, that wood is hard to come by. Carl, didn’t you locate that scion for me?
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 28, 2019 16:49:26 GMT -6
I hope for your sake it did Art, that wood is hard to come by. Carl, didn’t you locate that scion for me? Yes I did but, I think Jim moved out of state so I don’t think it’s available anymore.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 28, 2019 18:39:40 GMT -6
Carl, didn’t you locate that scion for me? Yes I did but, I think Jim moved out of state so I don’t think it’s available anymore. With luck, I might be able to share scion in a few years.
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Post by buckvelvet on Jan 29, 2019 8:40:44 GMT -6
Yes you are correct, Jim Bastian did move away from the tree. I think Louis Pittman moved as well so the entire source is lost if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by kooch on Jan 29, 2019 8:59:11 GMT -6
You fruit guys just amaze me. Dont take that the wrong way. It is so foreign to me. I have read oodles of posts from many of you, and I go cross eyed every time I read it. HAAAAA. Impressive stuff. I feel myself slowly getting pulled into the fruit tree thing. I haven't even planted a single tree yet. But, I have these daydreams of opening up *more* space, making the ground right, and planting trees. If watching turnips and radish grow is so satisfying, imagine the slow burn of watching trees mature bit, by bit over the years. You people are a bad influence. A mixture of 16 hardy Pear and Crab trees are on order. This may turn into an issue. Edit - I just remembered one of my neighbors up there, a few miles away, has an apple tree in his front yard. He called it a "Franken", meaning he'd grafted all sorts of things on to it. This was a while ago before I gave a shit about it. He said he liked it because he got apples "most every year" since there were several varieties all growing on the one tree. I'll pay him and his apple tree a visit in Spring. I don't have anything to graft it to, or the knowledge of how to do it. But, at least I can ask him more questions about his little tree. It's small, so I guess a dwarf or semi-dwarf. But, it looked old and gnarly so I think it's been around a long time.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 29, 2019 9:20:44 GMT -6
You fruit guys just amaze me. Dont take that the wrong way. It is so foreign to me. I have read oodles of posts from many of you, and I go cross eyed every time I read it. HAAAAA. Impressive stuff. I feel myself slowly getting pulled into the fruit tree thing. I haven't even planted a single tree yet. But, I have these daydreams of opening up *more* space, making the ground right, and planting trees. If watching turnips and radish grow is so satisfying, imagine the slow burn of watching trees mature bit, by bit over the years. You people are a bad influence. A mixture of 16 hardy Pear and Crab trees are on order. This may turn into an issue. Edit - I just remembered one of my neighbors up there, a few miles away, has an apple tree in his front yard. He called it a "Franken", meaning he'd grafted all sorts of things on to it. This was a while ago before I gave a shit about it. He said he liked it because he got apples "most every year" since there were several varieties all growing on the one tree. I'll pay him and his apple tree a visit in Spring. I don't have anything to graft it to, or the knowledge of how to do it. But, at least I can ask him more questions about his little tree. It's small, so I guess a dwarf or semi-dwarf. But, it looked old and gnarly so I think it's been around a long time. You will be battling hardiness up there. You need advice from someone with experience in that area. I grew up about 80 miles south of there. Our souls are light and get droughty in that area. Apple trees are tough to grow there.
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 29, 2019 9:38:16 GMT -6
I feel myself slowly getting pulled into the fruit tree thing. I haven't even planted a single tree yet. But, I have these daydreams of opening up *more* space, making the ground right, and planting trees. If watching turnips and radish grow is so satisfying, imagine the slow burn of watching trees mature bit, by bit over the years. You people are a bad influence. A mixture of 16 hardy Pear and Crab trees are on order. This may turn into an issue. Edit - I just remembered one of my neighbors up there, a few miles away, has an apple tree in his front yard. He called it a "Franken", meaning he'd grafted all sorts of things on to it. This was a while ago before I gave a shit about it. He said he liked it because he got apples "most every year" since there were several varieties all growing on the one tree. I'll pay him and his apple tree a visit in Spring. I don't have anything to graft it to, or the knowledge of how to do it. But, at least I can ask him more questions about his little tree. It's small, so I guess a dwarf or semi-dwarf. But, it looked old and gnarly so I think it's been around a long time. You will be battling hardiness up there. You need advice from someone with experience in that area. I grew up about 80 miles south of there. Our souls are light and get droughty in that area. Apple trees are tough to grow there. I have noticed that with you Art....
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 30, 2019 14:48:35 GMT -6
I feel myself slowly getting pulled into the fruit tree thing. I haven't even planted a single tree yet. But, I have these daydreams of opening up *more* space, making the ground right, and planting trees. If watching turnips and radish grow is so satisfying, imagine the slow burn of watching trees mature bit, by bit over the years. You people are a bad influence. A mixture of 16 hardy Pear and Crab trees are on order. This may turn into an issue. Edit - I just remembered one of my neighbors up there, a few miles away, has an apple tree in his front yard. He called it a "Franken", meaning he'd grafted all sorts of things on to it. This was a while ago before I gave a shit about it. He said he liked it because he got apples "most every year" since there were several varieties all growing on the one tree. I'll pay him and his apple tree a visit in Spring. I don't have anything to graft it to, or the knowledge of how to do it. But, at least I can ask him more questions about his little tree. It's small, so I guess a dwarf or semi-dwarf. But, it looked old and gnarly so I think it's been around a long time. You will be battling hardiness up there. You need advice from someone with experience in that area. I grew up about 80 miles south of there. Our souls are light and get droughty in that area. Apple trees are tough to grow there. That’s where a large pile of wood chips would help. Let them rot down and provide mulch that’ll give nutrients and hold water longer for those trees. When Kooch has his land cleared they may have a chipper and they could leave him a large pile.
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