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Post by Sandbur on Jun 25, 2017 4:18:57 GMT -6
Illinois, Puerto Rico, and it goes on and on. Gentleman, keep digging in your pockets as you will pay for it via our federal government. (Til we realize we are broke)
If you have an old farm site, you better start digging and hope to find an old cream can.
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Post by sd51555 on Jun 25, 2017 8:13:25 GMT -6
MN has been growing their discretionary budget at 2-4 times the pace of income/GDP since I've been paying attention. Couple that with them borrowing money to build non-infrastructure boondoggles and dumping the maintenance costs into the main budget, they're getting ahead of themselves as well. This is why there seems to always be a new tax or sale of sovereignty to the feds each biennium to keep the can tumbling forward.
Go all the way back to about 2001 and you'll find tobacco taxes went up, gas taxes went up, sales taxes went up multiple times on local levels, then the arts-water-outdoors sales tax happened, then MN eagerly signed onto the medicaid expansion in Obamacare because it was almost solely covered by the feds for the first couple years. MN also signed onto the 2-year unemployment expansion Obama offered, again almost exclusively funded by the feds for the first two years. Then there was Dayton's big income tax increase. And what has happened since all this new revenue came in?
It's still a shit show, and nothing has really changed except it keeps getting more expensive.
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Post by kabic on Jun 29, 2017 19:36:02 GMT -6
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Post by sd51555 on Jun 29, 2017 21:40:37 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 29, 2017 21:45:28 GMT -6
Why arent you a politician SD?
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Post by sd51555 on Jun 29, 2017 22:02:42 GMT -6
Why arent you a politician SD? I went to college during the advent of digital cameras and facebook. Too many drunk and naked pictures of me out there. I'd have to snatch up Bill and Hillary's entire hit squad to snuff out all the people with dirt on me. Also, when I realized that there are no longer representatives of the people in power, I moved on. It became apparent that elected officials are simple stooges sent by piles of money to defend piles of money. Nobody in power gives a shit about roads, bridges, schools, or health care. Once I realized that, it became theater for me, watching how the parasites are now killing off the host in some of these places like Illinois.
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 29, 2017 22:12:02 GMT -6
oh come on. really?
Make your way to DC, be Trumps replacement and appoint batman as your press secretery.
The world would be a better place.... Well at least very entertaining.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jun 30, 2017 6:17:11 GMT -6
Gotta add this factoid. I live on Gull lake. Pretty spendy zip code here when it comes to taxes. I would guess......that about 2/3 of the homeowners here are now NON-RESIDENTS of this state. They spend six months and one day in another state and therefore MN cannot get income tax from these folks. Yes....they pay property taxes.....but that is the price of admission here. I should have my head examined to remain a resident of MN. I now spend 5 months in AZ......and would be money ahead to spend another month there each year. It is under consideration. FORE! Your mailbox just needs to spend 6 months in AZ!
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Post by Foggy on Jun 30, 2017 7:06:09 GMT -6
Gotta add this factoid. I live on Gull lake. Pretty spendy zip code here when it comes to taxes. I would guess......that about 2/3 of the homeowners here are now NON-RESIDENTS of this state. They spend six months and one day in another state and therefore MN cannot get income tax from these folks. Yes....they pay property taxes.....but that is the price of admission here. I should have my head examined to remain a resident of MN. I now spend 5 months in AZ......and would be money ahead to spend another month there each year. It is under consideration. FORE! Your mailbox just needs to spend 6 months in AZ! No......MN will chase you to be certain you dot all your "I's" and cross your "Ts". You better have receipts for gas and groceries, have your drivers licence changed, bank accounts in new state, car license to new state, yada yada. Otherwise MN will try to apply state tax to your income. I know several folks that have had to prove they were in another state for six months and a day. They needed lots of documentation. In other words.... .MN wants it's tax money.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jun 30, 2017 7:12:03 GMT -6
Your mailbox just needs to spend 6 months in AZ! No......MN will chase you to be certain you dot all your "I's" and cross your "Ts". You better have receipts for gas and groceries, have your drivers licence changed, bank accounts in new state, car license to new state, yada yada. Otherwise MN will try to apply state tax to your income. I know several folks that have had to prove they were in another state for six months and a day. They needed lots of documentation. In other words.... .MN wants it's tax money. It must be easy to do, as we have plenty of jungle bunnies traveling between, Chi Town and MN to run dual citizenship for welfare money monthly. Figure it out brother!
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Post by Foggy on Jun 30, 2017 7:18:53 GMT -6
No......MN will chase you to be certain you dot all your "I's" and cross your "Ts". You better have receipts for gas and groceries, have your drivers licence changed, bank accounts in new state, car license to new state, yada yada. Otherwise MN will try to apply state tax to your income. I know several folks that have had to prove they were in another state for six months and a day. They needed lots of documentation. In other words.... .MN wants it's tax money. It must be easy to do, as we have plenty of jungle bunnies traveling between, Chi Town and MN to run dual citizenship for welfare money monthly. Figure it out brother! It's different when the state is paying you - vs you paying the state. I figured you knew that.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jun 30, 2017 7:23:10 GMT -6
It must be easy to do, as we have plenty of jungle bunnies traveling between, Chi Town and MN to run dual citizenship for welfare money monthly. Figure it out brother! It's different when the state is paying you - vs you paying the state. I figured you knew that. I figured a man of your caliber could out smart some welfare bunnies..........whether your the one paying or getting paid!
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Post by Foggy on Jun 30, 2017 7:25:59 GMT -6
It's different when the state is paying you - vs you paying the state. I figured you knew that. I figured a man of your caliber could out smart some welfare bunnies..........whether your the one paying or getting paid! It's not the welfare bunnies chasing the tax money.....the state has accountants that will chase you to make you prove your residency. I know lots of folks (big tax payers) that have had to do this. Audit / audit / audit.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jun 30, 2017 7:29:14 GMT -6
I figured a man of your caliber could out smart some welfare bunnies..........whether your the one paying or getting paid! It's not the welfare bunnies chasing the tax money.....the state has accountants that will chase you to make you prove your residency. I know lots of folks (big tax payers) that have had to do this. Audit / audit / audit. Oh, but it is the welfare bunnies that are forcing the state to chase you for your money to give to them......and you do!
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Post by sd51555 on Jun 30, 2017 9:44:03 GMT -6
It must be easy to do, as we have plenty of jungle bunnies traveling between, Chi Town and MN to run dual citizenship for welfare money monthly. Figure it out brother! It's different when the state is paying you - vs you paying the state. I figured you knew that. Welfare fraud is a huge windfall for the states. The Feds pay half the cost, so whether it's a complete fraud or not, the more on the take, the more federal dollars get injected into the state economy.
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