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Post by leexrayshady on Jun 28, 2017 13:13:34 GMT -6
Put in my first order to welters seed yesterday 5lbs of Alice clover and 5lbs of ground hog radish, wish I could have had the radish in before the rain we got yesterday
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Post by smsmith on Jun 28, 2017 14:08:35 GMT -6
I planted a 4 way mix of rape, daikons, kale, and ptts on a micro plot a couple days ago. Hoping my timing for that plot and the house plot was as close to "ideal" as a guy can get.
I ordered from Welter's a good number of years ago. Great service as my order arrived either the next business day or the day after.
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 28, 2017 14:18:12 GMT -6
I put my order in on Monday. Hopefully I'll receive it so I can plant the weekend of the 8th.
PPT, Groundhog radish, dwarf Essex Rape, and Ladino, Kopu, and Alice White clovers
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Post by leexrayshady on Jun 28, 2017 14:27:09 GMT -6
Where did you get your see from Stu?
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Post by smsmith on Jun 28, 2017 14:31:09 GMT -6
Where did you get your see from Stu? Hancock Seed. They had the best price on Bayou Forage Kale I found, so I ordered some other stuff from them at the same time to save on shipping. |
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 28, 2017 16:38:53 GMT -6
I've ordered medium red clover from Hancock as well. No problems.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 28, 2017 17:05:29 GMT -6
^ Wow. I don't see any great deals on seeds at Hancock. Lots of places have better prices.......but it's hard to beat MO"s prices.....and he will buy you a beer.  |
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Post by smsmith on Jun 28, 2017 17:41:05 GMT -6
I'd buy Bayou Forage Kale from John if he carried it ....and if it was worth his time to bag up and ship 5 lbs of the stuff. |
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Post by wildfire123 on Jun 28, 2017 18:27:45 GMT -6
Bought 25# gfr from Mo.
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 28, 2017 18:32:02 GMT -6
Stu,
Explain this Bayou kale for me. You plant it now and will it over winter and provide greenup food and then bolt and die? Or will it die after late frosts?
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Post by Foggy on Jun 28, 2017 18:40:46 GMT -6
Somebody explain seeding brassica AND RADISH into standing beans. How you gonna get those radish deep enough to grow? I think the brassica would do OK with a good rain.....but the Radish? Telll me?
And how about forage peas? Same question.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 28, 2017 18:41:47 GMT -6
Stu, Explain this Bayou kale for me. You plant it now and will it over winter and provide greenup food and then bolt and die? Or will it die after late frosts? I can't tell you much yet. I can say that from what I've read, it can be summer/fall planted and will over winter, greenup next spring, bolt and die in zone 5 or 6. It might do the same in zone 4a...but I don't know. My guess is that will depend on snow cover and ambient temps this winter. I am planting it with the hope that it will stay green at least as long as the "normal" garden kale I planted last year. That shit was green and standing almost until February. My goal is to have an above ground brassica crop that retains food value well into winter. Turnips and rutabagas do "ok" for food into winter, but my deer showed last year that I had too many (lots of uneaten bulbs). Corn and beans aren't options for me, so a brassica crop that fills a part of a winter food niche would be pretty cool. Plus, I just enjoy messing around with growing new stuff. |
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Post by smsmith on Jun 28, 2017 18:49:50 GMT -6
Somebody explain seeding brassica AND RADISH into standing beans. How you gonna get those radish deep enough to grow? I think the brassica would do OK with a good rain.....but the Radish? Telll me? And how about forage peas? Same question. Radish does fine being top seeded here, as long as we get a decent rain. Peas are a lot "iffier". They'd need more duff covering them, or a week of weather where the seed gets soaked and never dries out. Keep in mind that the sandier your soil, the worse top/overseeding works. Same deal with frost seeding...it doesn't work on sandy soil |
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 28, 2017 19:18:30 GMT -6
I have had OK luck with frost seeding on lighter soil...when the top inch or so of soil is just slime and frost underneath. You have to catch it when that grease is on top.
Lighter soil must explain why I am not a big fan of any broadcast/no till seeding.
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Post by leexrayshady on Jun 29, 2017 17:52:09 GMT -6
Received my order today, and there is a 50 percent chance of rain tomorrow went an spread my brassicas in this failed soybean plot   |
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