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Post by kabic on Sept 7, 2017 10:11:36 GMT -6
I saw ad for a mix of Hairy Vetch and Winter Rye seed.
I did a search but couldn't find an answer. Will Hairy Vetch be killed with a spraying of 24DB?
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Post by smsmith on Sept 7, 2017 10:59:29 GMT -6
I don't know, but I really doubt it. 2-4D might do okay, but I doubt 2-4db taking it out.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 7, 2017 11:33:27 GMT -6
You can expect only a 80% kill with 2-4D. 90% with clopyralid.
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Post by kabic on Sept 7, 2017 11:59:27 GMT -6
Mo, do you know how it does in a hay field. Is it hard to dry or bale?
I was thinking about adding to a hay field then spraying 24 db in the spring to kill weeds.
The field currently has alfalfa, clover some grasses and weeds(ragweed). But also needs to be thickened up. It's a Sandy type soil so lots of bare spots.
Field wasn't harvested this year, but it was mowed.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 7, 2017 15:14:41 GMT -6
The one thing I'll say about hairy vetch is that if you don't want it around pretty much forever (and don't currently have any in your plots)...don't plant it. The stuff makes shit loads of seed and they can last a long time in the soil bank.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 7, 2017 18:42:14 GMT -6
The one thing I'll say about hairy vetch is that if you don't want it around pretty much forever (and don't currently have any in your plots)...don't plant it. The stuff makes shit loads of seed and they can last a long time in the soil bank. I have to agree with stu. It would not be my choice to add with hay. The stuff is a weed, or can be if left un checked.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 7, 2017 18:45:21 GMT -6
Seed some tall fescue in your bare spots. Its easy to get established and is pretty drought resistant.
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Post by kabic on Sept 7, 2017 18:56:15 GMT -6
Ok, I will steer clear.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 7, 2017 20:07:02 GMT -6
Mo would know better than I, but I believe farmers usually use either medium or mammoth red clover to "thicken up" aging alfalfa fields. Either should do okay for you given the fact that alfalfa is growing there.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 7, 2017 20:27:10 GMT -6
Mo would know better than I, but I believe farmers usually use either medium or mammoth red clover to "thicken up" aging alfalfa fields. Either should do okay for you given the fact that alfalfa is growing there. Have not had good luck in the sand interseeding red clover of any type. In the heavy ground, yes. I have sold some quack grass seed to guys in the sand also to fill in. But if the alfalfa is shitty, most plow it up. and rotate out for a year or two, then try and establish a better stand of alfalfa later.
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