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Post by sd51555 on Oct 23, 2017 12:44:45 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mess with alfalfa until you have put premium fertility into a clover patch. Just seems like a lot of money and a maintenance headache.
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Post by biglakebass on Oct 23, 2017 12:51:46 GMT -6
Ben You have a lot to catch up on. Merchant is retiring too. Leslie is back.
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Post by nhmountains on Oct 23, 2017 12:55:52 GMT -6
My neighbor has an alfalfa field next to a pine plantation/wintering area. End of last years rifle season he sat there and saw 80 deer on the field. Art, how is far away from your land is this wintering area? Does that farmer winter feed them?
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Post by Freeborn on Oct 23, 2017 13:01:23 GMT -6
My neighbor has an alfalfa field next to a pine plantation/wintering area. End of last years rifle season he sat there and saw 80 deer on the field. Last year was warm if I remember correctly, his count was probably before a frost? If we had a killing frost that alfalfa field would have little to offer deer.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 23, 2017 14:33:36 GMT -6
We find sheds in alfalfa, so must be some late season draw too?
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Post by riggs on Oct 23, 2017 16:21:49 GMT -6
I have also found sheds in alfalfa. I watched deer feed all last winter in my alfalfa plot but there was mature winter rye in there as well. They were mainly on my place for corn and beans but they seemed to like variety, especially when we would lose snow cover.
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Post by smallchunk on Oct 23, 2017 17:24:27 GMT -6
I am opposite of you guys. Alfalfa hold tons of our wintering deer in the area. The alfalfa next to a swamp will hold 10-20 deer in the wintering areas a night. The farmer I'm thinking of hates it because the deer will sometime ruin his fields in the winter.
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Post by wiscwhip on Oct 23, 2017 17:57:59 GMT -6
Never seen a bigger draw than a mixed sward dairy pasture of alfalfa and medium red clover.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 23, 2017 19:40:35 GMT -6
My neighbor has an alfalfa field next to a pine plantation/wintering area. End of last years rifle season he sat there and saw 80 deer on the field. Art, how is far away from your land is this wintering area? Does that farmer winter feed them? It is 1.5 miles away. He does not feed them. A few rows of corn might be left. This pine plantation/swamp area is surrounded by irrigated crop land . The last few years it has had hundreds of acres of rye cover crop.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 23, 2017 19:55:36 GMT -6
land acquisition? How many bucks were in that group of 80 deer by the end of rifle season? That's really impressive. He said many were button bucks. Not many adult does were out.
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Post by leexrayshady on Oct 24, 2017 10:57:56 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Oct 24, 2017 11:08:33 GMT -6
My friend did one time... that was it.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 24, 2017 11:14:24 GMT -6
Was that in one of the whitetail Institute products? Seems like I tried it years ago.
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Post by leexrayshady on Oct 24, 2017 11:16:19 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Oct 24, 2017 11:19:44 GMT -6
I planted sainfoin on my and my folks' old places. It did okay on my place (nice silt loam, native ph around 6.2) it didn't do shit on my folks' (worthless sandy, acidic, native ph around 5).
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