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Post by nhmountains on Nov 26, 2017 23:51:05 GMT -6
I've got an area that I'll be thinning and hunting this spring to open up sone red oaks. It's mostly maple but, there's a line of about a dozen Poplar that I want to kill. They must've been a root sprout at one point. They're about 8-10" dbh and 70'+ tall. I'd like them dead but, I don't want any more sprouts. My goal is to provide sunlight to the current oaks and the seedlings I'll be planting in there. This is an area we leave alone so I'm not concerned with them slowly dying and breaking off. They are blocking a lot of western sun. I doubt Poplar would bring any timber value in the next 20 years? I've read to wait until spring when the sap us flowing and to cut a 3" girdle by cutting two rings and popping the bark off. They said to be careful not to damage the inner cambium or it'll send sprouts. Any other suggestions or tips?  |
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 27, 2017 4:22:11 GMT -6
Popple regrowth can provide lots of browse if maintained in a young state. Acorn crops are not reliable year after year in my part of the country. Do you have other areas dedicated to young popple regrowth?
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 27, 2017 6:50:27 GMT -6
The deer here like the maple regrowth way more than the Poplar. I will be hinging some maple in that area that'll provide Browse.
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Post by batman on Nov 27, 2017 6:51:50 GMT -6
Ozoga had areas where 80% (don't quote me) of deer diet was popple leaves in summer.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 27, 2017 7:06:46 GMT -6
Ozoga had areas where 80% (don't quote me) of deer diet was popple leaves in summer. I can believe that but, what I've seen in browse areas here is they'll browse the maples before the poplars given a choice. I think they love the sap. I do have a few other areas that there's poplar in. I know the partridge like poplar. This ridge area I want to be oaks and maple. |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 27, 2017 8:15:08 GMT -6
In the area I had a logger harvest mature bigtooth aspen in the summer I've had about zero regeneration.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 27, 2017 14:21:21 GMT -6
There is an article about different age-classes of aspen in Outdoor News this week.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 27, 2017 14:41:51 GMT -6
There is an article about different age-classes of aspen in Outdoor News this week. Is that an online article or print? |
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 27, 2017 19:56:26 GMT -6
In the area I had a logger harvest mature bigtooth aspen in the summer I've had about zero regeneration. I think winter harvest is better for regeneration. |
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 27, 2017 19:57:25 GMT -6
Ozoga had areas where 80% (don't quote me) of deer diet was popple leaves in summer. I can believe that but, what I've seen in browse areas here is they'll browse the maples before the poplars given a choice. I think they love the sap. I do have a few other areas that there's poplar in. I know the partridge like poplar. This ridge area I want to be oaks and maple. I am glad to see someone else really knows what partridge are. |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 27, 2017 20:00:12 GMT -6
In the area I had a logger harvest mature bigtooth aspen in the summer I've had about zero regeneration. I think winter harvest is better for regeneration. It is. Carl doesn't want them to regenerate though |
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 27, 2017 20:22:51 GMT -6
I want this ridge to be mainly oaks. I have other areas with oaks here and there. I want the deer to know they can get a meal here when the nuts are dropping. I will be raking the leaves clear on several of these to make them go to preferred trees.
I still have 120+ other acres to promote Poplar growth regen in pockets.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 27, 2017 20:36:27 GMT -6
There is an article about different age-classes of aspen in Outdoor News this week. Is that an online article or print? [br Print, but it maybe is online somewhere? |
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Post by leexrayshady on Nov 28, 2017 7:25:39 GMT -6
would hack and squirt work?
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 28, 2017 10:18:05 GMT -6
would hack and squirt work? From what I've read if the poplar senses any damage it'll send up the root sprouts off its roots. The girdling approach is supposed to lessen the chance of root sprouts. Perhaps enough gly gly or other chemical could do the trick but I think I'll try the girdling. You need to do it when the bark is slipping. |
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