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Post by smsmith on Nov 30, 2017 8:59:57 GMT -6
I think SLN used to have a t-shirt that said "Keep planting 'til you're planted". Pretty much my philosophy
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 30, 2017 10:19:55 GMT -6
I think SLN used to have a t-shirt that said "Keep planting 'til you're planted". Pretty much my philosophy So what would you do with something like this? Hinge the birches to let the softwoods grow?
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Post by wiscwhip on Nov 30, 2017 10:50:51 GMT -6
I think SLN used to have a t-shirt that said "Keep planting 'til you're planted". Pretty much my philosophy So what would you do with something like this? Hinge the birches to let the softwoods grow? When I was a younger man, I used to harvest those birch and cut them into firewood. Then a buddy and me would use his truck to run a load of it down to Chicago on the weekend and sell small log bundles to the richy-rich to put by there fireplaces. Made damn good money too, paid for many trips down to see some young lady friends we had in the suburbs and we were able to pay for a night out and knock off a piece without spending any of our other money. Win-win for us. Those money folks were willing to pay to top dollar to have those white logs beside their fireplaces and hear that "birch crackle" when they burned the stuff.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 30, 2017 10:55:29 GMT -6
I think SLN used to have a t-shirt that said "Keep planting 'til you're planted". Pretty much my philosophy So what would you do with something like this? Hinge the birches to let the softwoods grow? What's the goal for the area?
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 30, 2017 11:19:39 GMT -6
So what would you do with something like this? Hinge the birches to let the softwoods grow? What's the goal for the area? Lol, no idea. That's right east of the south facing slope that I want to turn into oaks. My orchard is 120 yards to the east of this section. So it would be a strip in between the orchard and the oaks.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 30, 2017 11:21:45 GMT -6
I think the birches will self thin themselves somewhat. If that spot were on my place, I'd be giving the evergreens preference by eliminating competition from the birches....but I have no evergreens other than those I've planted and a handful of red cedars.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 30, 2017 11:22:40 GMT -6
So what would you do with something like this? Hinge the birches to let the softwoods grow? When I was a younger man, I used to harvest those birch and cut them into firewood. Then a buddy and me would use his truck to run a load of it down to Chicago on the weekend and sell small log bundles to the richy-rich to put by there fireplaces. Made damn good money too, paid for many trips down to see some young lady friends we had in the suburbs and we were able to pay for a night out and knock off a piece without spending any of our other money. Win-win for us. Those money folks were willing to pay to top dollar to have those white logs beside their fireplaces and hear that "birch crackle" when they burned the stuff. I've cut so much birch the past two years. I give it my inlaws. They burn it as supplemental heat so it keeps them happy. I burn birch at home in September through early November and then switch to maple. It heats up better and burns longer.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 30, 2017 11:26:21 GMT -6
I think the birches will self thin themselves somewhat. If that spot were on my place, I'd be giving the evergreens preference by eliminating competition from the birches....but I have no evergreens other than those I've planted and a handful of red cedars. Once I get the oak area cleared and hinged then I'll see how these are doing. I was actually going to put a permanent hut up against this area overlooking the oak hillside so I'm not sure what I'll do. I may just let them go and see what happens. The problem I've had with birches is when they're tall and thin the ice will bend them over and then they usually end up leaning towards trees I want to protect.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 30, 2017 12:24:39 GMT -6
What's the goal for the area? Lol, no idea. That's right east of the south facing slope that I want to turn into oaks. My orchard is 120 yards to the east of this section. So it would be a strip in between the orchard and the oaks. Bitch stumps can send out lots of browse. On my north property the birch sprouts were heavily browsed.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 30, 2017 12:26:15 GMT -6
For next spring I have one Snowsweet on order, no scion, no rootstock, and no plugs or seedlings. Do I need to see a doctor?
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Post by smsmith on Nov 30, 2017 12:33:35 GMT -6
For next spring I have one Snowsweet on order, no scion, no rootstock, and no plugs or seedlings. Do I need to see a doctor? I plan to stick at least 100 evergreens in the ground pretty much every year until I'm unable or I sell. You have two chunks of ground with plenty of conifers, so you're good to go
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 30, 2017 12:33:43 GMT -6
I like birch, and I wish I had more of it. That is hands down the favorite for winter browse in my area. The birch are under heavy protection on my property.
**Like I have always said, "my emergency bait pile in the sky." One thing I've never reckoned though is whether the deer would be around my place when I decide to put the birch on the ground. Wouldn't that be a shot to the seeds?
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Post by wildfire123 on Nov 30, 2017 12:39:18 GMT -6
I had 2 acres that all birch and aspen were were cut and left in place. Would cut on Tuesdays and Saturdays, each time out it looked if every deer in the county was in there on the tops.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 30, 2017 12:43:26 GMT -6
I like birch, and I wish I had more of it. That is hands down the favorite for winter browse in my area. The birch are under heavy protection on my property. I like birch too, mainly for their aesthetic appeal. Birch gets browsed here, but is "second tier" browse from what I can tell. Aspen, wild apple, ROD, and maple all appear to be first choice.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 30, 2017 15:01:58 GMT -6
I keep feeling that same way. After nearly 10 years.... Still waiting for my trees to do anything to add to the cover. That Dbag from Prairie Land Management years ago used to spew his crap about manage by thirds. 1/3 food. 1/3 thermal cover. 1/3 something else. He saw my posts on old Fishing MN forums and contacted me directly. Trying to sell me on his bullshit. Wonderful. We have 120 acres. You want me to plant 40 acres of food. Plant 40 acres of confifers. And do something else with the other 40 acres... All available acres we have to cultivate are cultivated. All available acres to plant trees have been planted. The rest of the land is what it is. What was his name.... Kyle? HA HA Kyle, yes he is from Glenwood, now Alex, he moves because he ....well no comment. Do not listen to him!!
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