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Post by kl9 on Dec 19, 2017 8:58:56 GMT -6
This year I put fert down prior to planting and lightly worked into ground. I also sprayed once, one week prior to planting. I was told to spray a second 2 time weeks after bean emergence or 3-4 weeks after planting. I think the 3-4 weeks is too long and will do about two weeks next year. Don't know who told you what, but its always good to put down a pre before the beans are up. May not have to come back and spray a post pass. If you do have to spray a post pass, spray when the weeds are 1-2". Don't do it by weeks.... I did spray prior. 5-7 days prior to planting. Maybe that is too long?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 19, 2017 9:03:48 GMT -6
Don't know who told you what, but its always good to put down a pre before the beans are up. May not have to come back and spray a post pass. If you do have to spray a post pass, spray when the weeds are 1-2". Don't do it by weeks.... I did spray prior. 5-7 days prior to planting. Maybe that is too long? Depends on the herbicide and the amount of herbicide. We sell a lot of Authority First for the bean guys. Spray 3.2 oz/acre within 3 days after planting or before ground cracking from bean germination. The earlier you spray before planting, the sooner the residual wears out in the seed root zone. Causing you a for sure 2 pass in the field before canopy.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 19, 2017 9:04:03 GMT -6
So getting on them early to spray and fertilize is the key. At what height do you guys normally do these things? 6"? When the weeds are an 1-2" tall......no matter the bean height until they hit flowering. My farmer / neighbor down in OZ says....."you guys put too much work into the timing on weed spraying. The way a farmer does it....is to knock over an empty beer can....and if the weeds are taller than that beer can.....then you need to spray 'em". Of course he was only farming 2000 acres of sugar beets....so what does he know? . .
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Post by kabic on Dec 19, 2017 9:26:02 GMT -6
I found my thread on Habitat Talk, and reviewed my photo bucket account. I planted May 23 2015. I sprayed July 2nd. I haven't found any pictures where I flattened the soybeans, but it was very obvious were I had drove. A picture from the July 12th and I think I can make out my tracks still, but they are bouncing back already. 8/22 - I definitely would have drove through here, but no evidence of any tracks.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 19, 2017 9:34:13 GMT -6
My experience with driving over beans is that they bounce back in a few days. In southern MN they sold seed allot of beans. You can see the tire marks for a few days after the sprayer goes thru.....but those beans look even a week or so later. I have little hesitation to drive over my beans.....I try to stay in the rows....but can't always do that with the way I am forced to plant. It's all good. .
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 19, 2017 9:45:12 GMT -6
Depends on what you are driving them over with. I see hardly anything for damage from my 4 wheeler and 11' boom sprayer. No matter when I have time to spray.
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Post by jbird on Dec 19, 2017 12:50:15 GMT -6
I spread the fertilizer before I work the soil and then plant. I either wait for the weeds to start to compete with the crop or I wait until the beans are just tall enough to go under the tractor ( I have a small tractor). You drive over what you drive over. The beans will fill in and you will never notice it. I tend to be able to get away with a single herbicide application. For the most part anything after that will not really hurt your beans as beans will handle competition to some extent fairly well once they are established. The trick with beans is controlling weeds until the crop canopies.....once that happens your pretty much golden!
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 20, 2017 6:36:14 GMT -6
Brad every thing was pretty well covered except after broadcasting your beans, if you lightly disc your bean seeds and then pack it, you will get a lot better germination. If you don't disc the turkeys and sandhill cranes will have a lot of free lunches.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 20, 2017 7:06:37 GMT -6
Brad every thing was pretty well covered except after broadcasting your beans, if you lightly disc your bean seeds and then pack it, you will get a lot better germination. If you don't disc the turkeys and sandhill cranes will have a lot of free lunches. They may still get a free meal Tom, But at least you make them work for it by getting the seeds buried!
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Post by badbrad on Dec 20, 2017 9:59:58 GMT -6
Brad every thing was pretty well covered except after broadcasting your beans, if you lightly disc your bean seeds and then pack it, you will get a lot better germination. If you don't disc the turkeys and sandhill cranes will have a lot of free lunches. How deep can bean seed go before its too deep?
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Post by badbrad on Dec 20, 2017 10:01:06 GMT -6
What if the ground is really rought from the disc before packing? Won't that be enough to bury it or should I still run the disc over and then pack.
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 20, 2017 10:10:07 GMT -6
3/4 to inch for beans. Set your disc to run about 1 1/2 to 2 inches. I make a round around plot with disc and check to see how it is burying seed. If you have it set right there will be an occasional seed laying on top yet. By discing to cover you should break up some of those chunks and smooth it out a little also.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 20, 2017 10:11:00 GMT -6
Brad every thing was pretty well covered except after broadcasting your beans, if you lightly disc your bean seeds and then pack it, you will get a lot better germination. If you don't disc the turkeys and sandhill cranes will have a lot of free lunches. How deep can bean seed go before its too deep? In the sand I have seen them come up from 2.5-3" deep. I have also seen beans planted in the heavy ground at 1" deep not come up if the ground crusts over hard. To many factors to give the correct answer.
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Post by badbrad on Dec 20, 2017 10:11:24 GMT -6
3/4 to inch for beans. Set your disc to run about 1 1/2 to 2 inches. I make a round around plot with disc and check to see how it is burying seed. If you have it set right there will be an occasional seed laying on top yet. By discing to cover you should break up some of those chunks and smooth it out a little also. That is why i asked. Usually I drag it before seeding to break up the clumps and get it smoohted out. Should I do that?
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Post by jbird on Dec 20, 2017 10:16:56 GMT -6
I work my ground with a tiller - I broadcast the seed and simply drive over the entire plot using the tractors tires to pack the seed - works just fine. I was always told to plant a soybean and even corn for that matter an inch to an inch and a half deep. This buries it from the birds and the seed should still have enough energy to properly germinate - that is what my row planter is set at. if the ground is rough and only disced - you may want to drag the plot after seeded, but before packed. You can try to disc the seed again to cover it, but you can possibly cover it too much.
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