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Post by wildfire123 on Dec 19, 2017 21:29:14 GMT -6
Last year, had 1 acre of weeds, sprayed with 24d. August 1 broadcast rye and oats, nary a weed came up. Now the deer are digging thru the snow to get the rye. Next spring, will be broadcasting 90% beans, 10 % corn. Is it worth doing this in plots to decrease further spraying?
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Post by mnaaron on Dec 19, 2017 21:34:17 GMT -6
Not sure the question. Are you talking about spraying 24d prior to beans and corn? Or using grains to suppress weeds?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 19, 2017 21:36:11 GMT -6
Anytime you keep the ground covered it can do nothing but help with weed suppression! Good Job!
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 19, 2017 21:46:48 GMT -6
Where are you located? The deer by my place in se mn don't like winter rye at all. It always grows great so I wish the deer would eat it. I've planted buckwheat followed by rye and they do a great job fighting off weeds. But then when I planted soybeans the next year plenty of weeds came back anyway
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 20, 2017 5:15:55 GMT -6
Where are you located? The deer by my place in se mn don't like winter rye at all. It always grows great so I wish the deer would eat it. I've planted buckwheat followed by rye and they do a great job fighting off weeds. But then when I planted soybeans the next year plenty of weeds came back anyway Ben, If they're not touching the winter rye what are they eating instead? There's got to because another food source they prefer better. The plots I opened up and used winter rye on this fall were the only green things around in November and December. Deer hit them hard all day long. No beans or corn near me. |
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 20, 2017 7:41:55 GMT -6
The deer here like soybeans the best, followed by corn then brassicas. Once that stuff is gone the deer just go somewhere else. It's too bad because rye grows better than anything else and I've always liked how rye fields look.
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Post by wildfire123 on Dec 20, 2017 10:33:02 GMT -6
Thanks Mo
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Post by jbird on Dec 21, 2017 9:35:10 GMT -6
Wildfire - I know you didn't ask so it's ok if you tell me to piss-off here, but why 10% corn? I mixed 2/3 beans with 1/3 corn by weight and broadcast it this year and the corn is/was essentially useless. It simply doesn't handle the competition from the beans. I added corn to add some security to the plot and it didn't even do that because it never got big enough. I would tell you to broadcast just straight beans and if you want corn for security cover row plant it if at all possible and give it the space it wants.....otherwise my experience is that the corn is just a waste all the way around. Only time I have had success planting corn and beans together was thru a row planter with a crop in each hopper. Also keep in mind the fertilizer needs for beans and corn is grossly different and the beans will NOT provide the N the corn will need. Heck you want cover in the beans - intentionally allow strips of weeds to grow. I know that sounds counter productive, but beans will deal with competition far better than corn will.....corn can be a picky pain in the ass.
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Post by wiscwhip on Dec 21, 2017 10:01:50 GMT -6
If you want the corn for "cover" in the beans, you would be much farther ahead with sorghum than corn.
Providing you aren't going to blast it with gly and you continue to use the grain cover for weed suppression.
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Post by jbird on Dec 21, 2017 10:07:28 GMT -6
If you want the corn for "cover" in the beans, you would be much farther ahead with sorghum than corn. I would agree Wisc......however many folks add the corn because it's RR along with the beans so it makes weed control easier. Some folks seem to be able to pull it off.....I can't for some reason. Maybe I need to back off the volume of beans..... Something I may consider would be broadcasting just beans and wait until I spray the gly to control the weeds and then broadcast some sorghum. Not sure if that would work or not....never tried it, but it might work. Typically the only time I broadcast beans is when I'm being lazy and don't want to get the row planter out since it's an option. Certainly more than one way to skin a cat! |
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Post by wildfire123 on Dec 21, 2017 14:07:37 GMT -6
I have left over corn seed, the plot where I would use the mixture is surrounded by woods. Asking about 90-10 was to get an idea as to how much corn to put down. Our farm will be planted with beans-55 acres. Last year had beans that had some left over corn mixed in. How much corn needed to get proper pollination?
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