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Post by jbird on Feb 14, 2018 10:21:50 GMT -6
I am not sure how much you MN/WI guys use chicory.....but, I am looking at re-doing some plots and looking for suggestions on a good chicory variety.
I used to not focus much on varieties, but I have since changed that tune some. I am looking at mixing it with some clovers as an additive in larger plots, but may make it a larger portion of the mix in smaller archery kill type plots as well. I have seen deer here target chicory in late October and early November here.
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Post by leexrayshady on Feb 14, 2018 11:09:32 GMT -6
oasis I believe is the only one I have ever planted, and that was a long time ago, I had it in a shaded plot and grew fine, was one of the first ever plots I ever created, I didn't notice much deer usage but it was such a small plot and so new I don't think they were used to it. I haven't tried it since basically of the cost factor,
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Post by wiscwhip on Feb 14, 2018 13:27:36 GMT -6
Six Point, Forage Feast, Grasslands Puna and Oasis are all good chicory varieties we used in the past. Puna II also looks like a good choice and one that I would try now if I had a place to plant it.
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Post by Tooln on Feb 14, 2018 13:33:13 GMT -6
What % are you looking to mix with your clover? My first plot was a 50/50 mix. I don't remember the name of what I got but it worked well for me. This was tilled in last year and corn was put in it's place. This spring its getting another dose of clover/chicory again 50/50.
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Post by jbird on Feb 14, 2018 14:30:28 GMT -6
What % are you looking to mix with your clover? My first plot was a 50/50 mix. I don't remember the name of what I got but it worked well for me. This was tilled in last year and corn was put in it's place. This spring its getting another dose of clover/chicory again 50/50. it's going to depend on what clovers I mix with it. I am thinking about trying to mix a chicory, durana white and Barduo red, but I am fearful that the clovers will over take the chicory if I mix it in thirds. I may simply plant each as a monoculture in strips and say hell with it and be able to better monitor what the deer are hitting and when. For those where I want a greater % of chicory - I may go as high as 75% chicory with some Barduro making up the rest. I may even go 100% chicory and then add fall annuals to it later in the year as well.....who knows. I have been really impressed with the barduro red clover I stumbled across this last year. |
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 14, 2018 14:42:20 GMT -6
I rarely sell any Chicory, costs to much, and food plotters are cheap! I would love to hear which one you go with and how it does.
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Post by jbird on Feb 14, 2018 15:08:36 GMT -6
I rarely sell any Chicory, costs to much, and food plotters are cheap! I would love to hear which one you go with and how it does. Mo, I will share what ever I can. In the past I have not put much value into a particular variety. My "ah-ha" moment with red clover however made a little light bulb go off. My past efforts in planting essentially cow food are not a bad thing, but if I can give the deer something they want more then I would be a fool to go thru the effort and not make that effort. |
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Post by jbird on Feb 14, 2018 16:09:52 GMT -6
I rarely sell any Chicory, costs to much, and food plotters are cheap! I would love to hear which one you go with and how it does. Mo, I can't seem to find shit that compares any of these varieties. Most are simple sales pitch BS about how theirs is the best.....you know of any source where I can get some side-by-side notes about the different varieties? |
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Post by jbird on Feb 14, 2018 16:24:33 GMT -6
I rarely sell any Chicory, costs to much, and food plotters are cheap! I would love to hear which one you go with and how it does. Never mind Mo - I found something..... This seems to make at least narrowing down the varieties a little easier. www.tecomate.com/articles/Chicory_A_Powerful_Perennial.pdf |
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Post by mnfish on Feb 14, 2018 21:09:17 GMT -6
I have planted oasis and forage fest cultivators and have had very good growth and deer usage. This year like the past couple, I will mix annual clovers with the chicory. I treat it as an annual. Trying to find the pic I took with with crimson and berseem clover mixed with oasis and forage feast.
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 15, 2018 7:21:51 GMT -6
I ha Deer nibble on a bit of chicory during s dry summer, but I am surrounded by a sea of crops and now many of those are irrigated. I have not planted any for years.
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 15, 2018 9:17:30 GMT -6
I wasn't even aware there were different varieties of chicory. If it's not too big of a plot, I might just get a clover blend that has chicory in it for simplicity. My guys in Brookings, SD have one that has peaked my interest, but I'm drowning in clover seed right now, and I've never had a dry summer where I'd need chicory. Likely doesn't do ya any good to be this far away, but the blend is interesting. www.millbornseeds.com/wildlife/deer/whitetail-premium/ |
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Post by jbird on Feb 15, 2018 11:33:36 GMT -6
My deer eat chicory in the summer but not a lot as I have 100's of acres of soybeans around, but that window in the fall is what I am targeting! Once we start having cold nights, something trips a trigger in the chicory or the deer and the deer just hammer the shit out of it here. I can have nice almost knee high chicory in early October when it's still hot and it's all over.....then all of the sudden...WHAM! The deer come thru and just make it like it was never there! It's always in the late october/early November time frame (which is still archery for us). Lots of ways to use it....I just have to be smart enough to know it's peak point and use it to my advantage. No point in planting a large plot of chicory when the deer will be out of range for most of it!
SD - that seed mix looks interesting and I may give it a harder look if I really want a mix with perennials.....which I may.
Maybe the specific variety of chicory doesn't really matter.....I have resources like these forums with folks who's opinion's I trust and if they have had better luck with some vs others than I would be a fool not to at least ask and listen.
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