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Post by leexrayshady on Apr 10, 2018 6:55:16 GMT -6
The magic 200,000 number can someone explain to me how this wont be a faulty number?
The way I see it
Year a we harvest 210,000 animals so we are above the goal so we need to harvest more so licenses are increased.
Year B we harvest 215,000 animals do to increased licences well golly we are still above goal need to increase licences again
Year C we harvest 220,000 animals do to several year of increased licenses and need to increase again.
Year D harvest crashes to 150,000 as to many deer were taken the previous years
am I seeing this right, how will we not have a constant boom and bust cycle?
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Post by leexrayshady on Apr 10, 2018 7:51:15 GMT -6
Does this mean they are going to redo all the recent goal setting decisions? They better start with 214,215 area as we haven't had a goal setting since like 2005
Once the deer management plan is completed, DNR will re-initiate deer population goal setting in Minnesota. For the public process, DNR aggregates the 128 deer permit areas into regional, goal-setting blocks. Approximately four years will be needed to complete the goal-setting process statewide, based on the timeline described for each goal-setting block (Table 3). The goal setting process is anticipated to begin again in January of 2019, with the distribution of hunter and landowner surveys. DNR anticipates completion of goal setting by 2024. Goals will be established for a 10-year time period, with a mid-point evaluation to begin in 2025.
Table 3.
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Post by Satchmo on Apr 10, 2018 7:52:33 GMT -6
Managing the herd by choosing an arbitrary number is utterly ridiculous!!!
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 10, 2018 8:13:53 GMT -6
The magic 200,000 number can someone explain to me how this wont be a faulty number? The way I see it Year a we harvest 210,000 animals so we are above the goal so we need to harvest more so licenses are increased. Year B we harvest 215,000 animals do to increased licences well golly we are still above goal need to increase licences again Year C we harvest 220,000 animals do to several year of increased licenses and need to increase again. Year D harvest crashes to 150,000 as to many deer were taken the previous years am I seeing this right, how will we not have a constant boom and bust cycle? I'm also puzzled by it. In year F, what if the low harvest in year D is interpreted as harvest regs being too conservative, does the whole state go to 13 tags, January hunt, and March landowner hunt? |
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Post by Satchmo on Apr 10, 2018 10:25:53 GMT -6
This plan still leaves all the options in the hands of the DNR.
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Post by wiscwhip on Apr 10, 2018 11:48:59 GMT -6
This plan still leaves all the options in the hands of the DNR. I was going to say, it doesn't sound like much of a "plan", other than the "feel good" verbiage they used to appease the Fudd's. |
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 10, 2018 12:05:30 GMT -6
Hunters need to attend the upcoming meetings and try and get it to 225,000. That is the average that includes the good years in the northwoods.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 10, 2018 12:07:30 GMT -6
There's an online survey you can fill out as well. At every comment section I simply put that the 200,000 harvest goal is too low.
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Deer Plan
Apr 10, 2018 13:51:49 GMT -6
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Post by batman on Apr 10, 2018 13:51:49 GMT -6
200,000 is a media tool. It says right in the plan if DPA goals and the 200 conflict they use DPA goals. We won’t manage for 200.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 10, 2018 15:18:38 GMT -6
However, 200,000 gives them a guideline to increase kill if over 200,000.
MDHA has a stated goal of 225,000 kill in the state. Two sources say this is a fifteen year average for the state in the good years.
The DNR wants to throw out the good years in their calculations and use an average of other years.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 10, 2018 15:46:30 GMT -6
The harvest goal of 225,000 received eight and the most votes from the advisory committee. One committee member refused to vote for any lower harvest goal. The vote count is recorded at the end of the latest draft.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 11, 2018 3:17:36 GMT -6
The DNR website says area meetings will be held to ask questions but not to submit comments.
Are these public input meetings?
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 11, 2018 6:16:42 GMT -6
We need thousands of hunters in the state to request a 225,000 harvest goal!   |
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 11, 2018 7:46:25 GMT -6
With all the land they're buying between WMA's and CREP III that number should be going up 2 deer per acre from 225,000.
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