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Post by batman on Apr 17, 2018 8:28:16 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term?
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Post by wiscwhip on Apr 17, 2018 8:34:17 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? If I owned a place with 300 DPSM, fuck plotting, start shooting!!!
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Post by wiscwhip on Apr 17, 2018 8:49:54 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? What you are proposing should work very well btw. I would choose both red and white clovers. Spend a little extra moola and get an improved red that is meant to last more than 2 years. Once it gets established, it may never need to be re-seeded. I know of large areas on public ground around LaCrosse that haven't been seeded in 20+ years and the red clover gets so thick and tall rabbits have to eat their way through it. So the rumors we all hear that reds only last a couple of seasons are not entirely true, in the right circumstances, they can be a long term "perennial".
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 17, 2018 9:22:30 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? Lol! I can't report real results yet, but here's what I'm experimenting with hard this season. A white clover canvas, broadcast everything into it to double crop right outta the chute in spring. I haven't seen white clover so aggressive that it won't take a companion planting in it. I just don't know which of all the things I'm trying will work best. I've got high hopes for pumpkin tonnage, and WGF for late season carbs. I've also got an idea that deer may eat an entire BMR corn plant come winter. A couple years back I had random sorghum/millet stalks that volunteered from a bird seed pile from spring camera surveying. By December, the deer had eaten the entire stalk to the ground.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 17, 2018 9:23:30 GMT -6
And I'd push fertility.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 17, 2018 9:35:02 GMT -6
Where is this??
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 17, 2018 10:17:39 GMT -6
That is a lot of deer! As already said; wheat, clover, and fertilizer would be my first choices. Question; can you put up an electric fence and do rotational grazing? Divide the plot into thirds and only let the deer have .33% at a time... giving the other 2/3rds recovery time?
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 17, 2018 10:19:34 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? hard to plot inside a high fence unless you have segmented areas that you can keep the animals out of while the food grows............
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Post by batman on Apr 17, 2018 10:57:01 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? hard to plot inside a high fence unless you have segmented areas that you can keep the animals out of while the food grows............ Is this a guess? It is in my fence. Going to try plots this year geared for tonnage. I van Feed them textured feed if/when it fails.
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Post by Reagan on Apr 17, 2018 10:57:26 GMT -6
Kill all of the deer each winter.
Plant in the spring and summer to grow your plot.
Buy more deer each fall to eat your plots. It would be a farmed deer utopia.
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 17, 2018 11:05:18 GMT -6
hard to plot inside a high fence unless you have segmented areas that you can keep the animals out of while the food grows............ Is this a guess? It is in my fence. Going to try plots this year geared for tonnage. I van Feed them textured feed if/when it fails. Hell if I know. My friends with horses do that. Figured deer would be the same dealio. People put up fences to keep deer out of plots so they can get them to grow. Putting a fence up to keep deer in and trying to grow something sounds quite challenging.
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Post by Satchmo on Apr 17, 2018 11:49:22 GMT -6
Turn the herd over to the DNR. They will quickly knock it down to less than 10 DPSM. You can then feed what's left on a few bushels of winter rye and proceed with selective harvest when they get fat & sassy. Your welcome.
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Post by mnfish on Apr 17, 2018 12:14:49 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? What you are proposing should work very well btw. I would choose both red and white clovers. Spend a little extra moola and get an improved red that is meant to last more than 2 years. Once it gets established, it may never need to be re-seeded. I know of large areas on public ground around LaCrosse that haven't been seeded in 20+ years and the red clover gets so thick and tall rabbits have to eat their way through it. So the rumors we all hear that reds only last a couple of seasons are not entirely true, in the right circumstances, they can be a long term "perennial". Whip- Do you know the specific cultivar of that red clover the rabbits had to eat their way thru? I don't have quite as high DPSM as the batman but I have quite a few bred does that need the best lactating forage available.
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Post by wiscwhip on Apr 17, 2018 12:20:04 GMT -6
What you are proposing should work very well btw. I would choose both red and white clovers. Spend a little extra moola and get an improved red that is meant to last more than 2 years. Once it gets established, it may never need to be re-seeded. I know of large areas on public ground around LaCrosse that haven't been seeded in 20+ years and the red clover gets so thick and tall rabbits have to eat their way through it. So the rumors we all hear that reds only last a couple of seasons are not entirely true, in the right circumstances, they can be a long term "perennial". Whip- Do you know the specific cultivar of that red clover the rabbits had to eat their way thru? I don't have quite as high DPSM as the batman but I have quite a few bred does that need the best lactating forage available. Unfortunately, no. The beauty of it is, this stuff is growing in an area that was an old quarry and all around the surrounding area. No one has put any new seed down in there for many, many years and the red clover comes back year after year after year. It grows right in with the vetch and birdsfoot trefoil, which are true perennials.
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 17, 2018 14:49:20 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? Sugar beet tailings, clover and grains. Are you targeting a specific protein level?
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