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Post by Sandbur on Apr 17, 2018 15:40:24 GMT -6
Show up tonight and buy a bag of Eagle beans. Give them the real test.
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Post by batman on Apr 17, 2018 15:52:56 GMT -6
If you own a place that has about 300 deer per square mile what can you plot? Neighbors did not shoot any last fall. Was thinking maybe oats or wheat as a nurse crop with a bunch of clover/vetch/chicory as the perrenial for long term? Sugar beet tailings, clover and grains. Are you targeting a specific protein level? Protein is the most expensive part of any deer mix. If I was at 14% year round I would be jacked. |
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 17, 2018 18:44:29 GMT -6
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 18, 2018 6:10:22 GMT -6
We are doing more clover and grains and really pushing brassicas this year due to our deer numbers. In the grain mixes we are going to add soybeans and peas for some extra protein.
Going to try corn on plots after they walk through these other crops since corn is still king come late season.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 19, 2018 16:31:53 GMT -6
Our MDHA chapter distributed some free radish and turnip seed. Perhaps I will try’s fee again. Still have standing corn left.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 19, 2018 18:10:22 GMT -6
Batman....How much land do you have to plant into food plots, and how many acres overall?
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Post by batman on Apr 19, 2018 20:46:21 GMT -6
Batman....How much land do you have to plant into food plots, and how many acres overall? 40 acres fenced last October. Zero plots. My math says 6 acres done right is more than enough to support 300 deer per square mile. That would be 19 prefawn on a 40. That herd would yield appx 5 bucks over 150 inches and 5 does per season. 160 deer killed per square mile. $2K for the plots. $5,700 if you want to gravity feed the herd year round on pavement. I know its not for everybody. Its not the North American Wildlife model. But those who have participated love it and thats my goal. Neighbors are my friends. State goals are mud. Slogan in our group is don't mock it until you try it. Nobody has walked away without a smile. |
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Post by mnfish on Apr 19, 2018 21:19:24 GMT -6
Good for you Bat! And I will say I was one that enjoyed the crap out of the two MN high fences I got to experience last season. Was it different, you bet. Was it fun, absolutely!
I built and managed my first fish pond on my property about 18 years ago. Minnesota;The land of 10,000 lakes. My friends and family that had never fished a pond were saying things like... "Fishing in a bathtub", "Waste of money with all the lakes in MN", "It will never work", "How much fun can it be"...on and on. This year will be the 11th year tradition of MN Opener at TT on the ponds. Over 40 people, including a lot of younger kids will visit and enjoy the ponds this year.
I now enter into another outdoor project that people are putting their noses up too. I am a betting man and I bet the high fence at TT will play out exactly like the fish ponds. Rock on HFS!
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Post by Foggy on Apr 20, 2018 8:44:28 GMT -6
^ Interesting stuff here guys.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 20, 2018 10:23:58 GMT -6
^ Interesting stuff here guys. I commend the Bat and Fish for putting themselves out there by sharing their ideas and experiences. We've all got to come to the realization that our deer hobby as we know it is under an all out assault from state agencies, industries, tribes, non-sportsmen, and even the deer organizations themselves. These two guys are likely light years ahead of the rest of us in preserving their hobby as best they can. I've had to do some slick talking to myself to not give up on my place, and find a way to right-size my expectations and figure out how to enjoy it. For me, if push comes to shove, I am not going to just quit because deer are no longer allowed on the landscape. That may involve selling and leaving MN for a game friendly state, I may sell and go the guided adventure route (god knows it'd be more affordable), or throw up fence to lock out all the negatives that short circuit all my habitat and conservation efforts (DNR, neighbors, wolves, weather, etc). I will not let the DNR, MDHA, QDMA, FSA, loggers or Foggers take my outdoor hobbies away. |
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Post by Foggy on Apr 20, 2018 10:58:05 GMT -6
^ Interesting stuff here guys. I commend the Bat and Fish for putting themselves out there by sharing their ideas and experiences. We've all got to come to the realization that our deer hobby as we know it is under an all out assault from state agencies, industries, tribes, non-sportsmen, and even the deer organizations themselves. These two guys are likely light years ahead of the rest of us in preserving their hobby as best they can. I've had to do some slick talking to myself to not give up on my place, and find a way to right-size my expectations and figure out how to enjoy it. For me, if push comes to shove, I am not going to just quit because deer are no longer allowed on the landscape. That may involve selling and leaving MN for a game friendly state, I may sell and go the guided adventure route (god knows it'd be more affordable), or throw up fence to lock out all the negatives that short circuit all my habitat and conservation efforts (DNR, neighbors, wolves, weather, etc). I will not let the DNR, MDHA, QDMA, FSA, loggers or Foggers take my outdoor hobbies away. FOGGERS! ? Do I resemble that remark???  . |
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 20, 2018 12:24:36 GMT -6
I commend the Bat and Fish for putting themselves out there by sharing their ideas and experiences. We've all got to come to the realization that our deer hobby as we know it is under an all out assault from state agencies, industries, tribes, non-sportsmen, and even the deer organizations themselves. These two guys are likely light years ahead of the rest of us in preserving their hobby as best they can. I've had to do some slick talking to myself to not give up on my place, and find a way to right-size my expectations and figure out how to enjoy it. For me, if push comes to shove, I am not going to just quit because deer are no longer allowed on the landscape. That may involve selling and leaving MN for a game friendly state, I may sell and go the guided adventure route (god knows it'd be more affordable), or throw up fence to lock out all the negatives that short circuit all my habitat and conservation efforts (DNR, neighbors, wolves, weather, etc). I will not let the DNR, MDHA, QDMA, FSA, loggers or Foggers take my outdoor hobbies away. FOGGERS! ? Do I resemble that remark??? . That’s residual animosity over the weather. |
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Post by batman on Apr 20, 2018 16:35:37 GMT -6
Interest and economics of captive cervids is on the rise. Has been for years. MN and the nation has been losing 1% of its deer hunters every year for the past 15 years. And we are not done yet. We are having more trouble recruiting than retaining. Thats a big problem.
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