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Post by honker on Dec 5, 2020 14:48:08 GMT -6
Time for a bump. Any updates on these plantings. I think I found a source for cuttings along side a dirt road. When do I cut the cuttings if I want to plant them? Now and hold over through the winter or wait until February or March??? I think most of us were doing it just before buds opened in the spring. March or so depending on temps. I just bumped another a thread that spoke to some of the details I would agree with SDs results and thoughts on cuttings. The thicker cuttings definitely did better. The thinner tips of the branch or those that were beat up tended to dry up and die. I had 20-30% survival rate as well in my cutting garden and at the cages at the land. My transplants with roots did better
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 5, 2020 14:59:34 GMT -6
Does ROD require really moist swampy type soils or if I bought rooted seedlings would they grow on well drained soils? I was thinking I could plant them on my south facing slope area?
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 5, 2020 15:05:37 GMT -6
Would any of these other conservation seedlings from the N.H. state nursery be worthwhile?? Thanks Stu. I’ve got a 5 moist areas that I haven’t done much with. I might as well do plantings but, I don’t want to bite off too much and not be able to get them in the ground. I may just move a couple cages in and plant them. Do you think the cages could be removed in a year, 2, or 3 years?? The good thing is on the ROD is the wife wants some planted for her future outside porch Christmas decorations.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 5, 2020 15:14:17 GMT -6
Would any of these other conservation seedlings from the N.H. state nursery be worthwhile?? Thanks Stu. I’ve got a 5 moist areas that I haven’t done much with. I might as well do plantings but, I don’t want to bite off too much and not be able to get them in the ground. I may just move a couple cages in and plant them. Do you think the cages could be removed in a year, 2, or 3 years?? The good thing is on the ROD is the wife wants some planted for her future outside porch Christmas decorations. For your question about soil and ROD...I've seen ROD growing any/every where from seasonally flooded areas to upland slopes. On upland soils the key seems to be OM. If there's decent moisture retention to upland soils, ROD can survive. I wouldn't say it would "thrive" there, but it can and does survive. With low deer densities, I'd imagine removing cages at year 2 or 3 wouldn't be a problem. I'm guessing my current DPSM to be right around 35 pre-hunt (maybe 20 right now, post firearm season) and I've got ROD popping up all over the place. Much gets browsed heavily, plenty does not. Grey dogwood is lower in browse preference in my experience (here and at my old place) and it can become much thicker than ROD. I've got them growing side by side in a number of areas.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 5, 2021 7:50:37 GMT -6
Does ROD require really moist swampy type soils or if I bought rooted seedlings would they grow on well drained soils? I was thinking I could plant them on my south facing slope area? I noticed you didn't get a response on this. I would definitely give it a shot. ROD isn't exclusive to wet areas. I've seen it on plenty of knolls and hilltops as well. I might not put serious time or money into it in case they cook, but I would certainly try the cuttings. I'd shoot for the first day in spring you can get a screwdriver in the ground to the depth you want your cuttings to go (I aim for a 6" bore hole with a thin driver, wiggle if you need a bigger hole) and then harvest and plant your cuttings all at once. Throw 2-3 dozen good cuttings in a 3' diameter cage and let'er buck. Beings you're making that ramial mulch, I'd put down a couple inches of that before you sink in your cuttings. That should give you the protection from the sun and keep the moisture you need to get them going.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 9, 2021 11:08:03 GMT -6
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 10, 2021 16:44:23 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Apr 10, 2021 17:51:14 GMT -6
^^^I'm leaning Silky dogwood
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Post by badgerfowl on Apr 10, 2021 18:31:46 GMT -6
My Reds are red all over.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 10, 2021 19:47:56 GMT -6
^^^I'm leaning Silky dogwood I’ll take some photos when they leaf out. There was a bigger patch of them that had some browse on the tips.
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 11, 2021 9:29:20 GMT -6
They look like my silky which happens to be my favorite dogwood. I have planted a bunch of them from MDC and they grow great and handle a ton of browsing. I plant them in 2’ tubes and pull the tubes in year 2 or 3.
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 11, 2021 9:31:17 GMT -6
Does ROD require really moist swampy type soils or if I bought rooted seedlings would they grow on well drained soils? I was thinking I could plant them on my south facing slope area? I transplanted some last year when I cleared the new plot. I moved them to the high side and they all took. I think they will grow anywhere you put them.
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Post by honker on Apr 11, 2021 10:46:07 GMT -6
They look like my silky which happens to be my favorite dogwood. I have planted a bunch of them from MDC and they grow great and handle a ton of browsing. I plant them in 2’ tubes and pull the tubes in year 2 or 3. how is the deer browse use on silky dogwood compared to ROD?
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 11, 2021 11:26:07 GMT -6
They look like my silky which happens to be my favorite dogwood. I have planted a bunch of them from MDC and they grow great and handle a ton of browsing. I plant them in 2’ tubes and pull the tubes in year 2 or 3. how is the deer browse use on silky dogwood compared to ROD? They love the silky all summer. They will put out a big push of new growth and the deer will hit it like a hedge trimmer. I have them lining a lot of my plots so the deer are concentrated on them. My ROD are all in wet spots I usually only go in during the winter, they show good browsing but I don’t know when they are hitting them. I have a few other kinds of dogwoods I have planted from nursery sales and they all get hit pretty good. I don’t think you can go wrong with any dogwood and you can’t kill them if you get them through the first summer.
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Post by sd51555 on Sept 5, 2021 14:51:33 GMT -6
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