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Post by wklman on Dec 2, 2018 12:00:58 GMT -6
Seriously thinking about getting a new 3 point tiller for food plotting. With my limited time to work on the property and possibly 14 acres coming out of production I'm wondering if a tiller isn't the fastest and best way to get a seed bed ready for planting. Looking for pros and cons. I'll be looking at the bigger tillers in the 45-70 hp tractor range and 60-72" wide range. The tractor it's going on is an allis Chalmers 180.
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 2, 2018 12:18:39 GMT -6
Seriously thinking about getting a new 3 point tiller for food plotting. With my limited time to work on the property and possibly 14 acres coming out of production I'm wondering if a tiller isn't the fastest and best way to get a seed bed ready for planting. Looking for pros and cons. I'll be looking at the bigger tillers in the 45-70 hp tractor range and 60-72" wide range. The tractor it's going on is an allis Chalmers 180. I have a 60" taylor Pittsburgh run by a 35 HP tractor. Mines rated to 60hp If I remember correctly. I have sandy soil and till shallow (2.5") so the tractor handles it easily. It does make a great seedbed to plant into. I plant 6 acres and it takes me close 4 hours to till it. Tillers are not as fast as a disc.
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Post by wklman on Dec 2, 2018 12:26:00 GMT -6
Seriously thinking about getting a new 3 point tiller for food plotting. With my limited time to work on the property and possibly 14 acres coming out of production I'm wondering if a tiller isn't the fastest and best way to get a seed bed ready for planting. Looking for pros and cons. I'll be looking at the bigger tillers in the 45-70 hp tractor range and 60-72" wide range. The tractor it's going on is an allis Chalmers 180. I have a 60" taylor Pittsburgh run by a 35 HP tractor. Mines rated to 60hp If I remember correctly. I have sandy soil and till shallow (2.5") so the tractor handles it easily. It does make a great seedbed to plant into. I plant 6 acres and it takes me close 4 hours to till it. Tillers are not as fast as a disc. Is yours a gear or chain drive Jerry?
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Post by mnaaron on Dec 2, 2018 14:42:10 GMT -6
We have a 6’ land pride and only use it when planting clover when we need a nice seedbed. We plant 20 acres foodplots and grab the disk 95% of the time because it is quicker. Tillers are nice but slow. Rocks are tough on tillers but forward clawing tillers not as big of a deal usually claw over or spit out if not to big.
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 2, 2018 14:42:36 GMT -6
I have a 60" taylor Pittsburgh run by a 35 HP tractor. Mines rated to 60hp If I remember correctly. I have sandy soil and till shallow (2.5") so the tractor handles it easily. It does make a great seedbed to plant into. I plant 6 acres and it takes me close 4 hours to till it. Tillers are not as fast as a disc. Is yours a gear or chain drive Jerry? Gear driven. Works very well and is built plenty heavy.
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Post by Tooln on Dec 2, 2018 14:51:27 GMT -6
I have a 6' tiller for a 45 hp tractor. Tractor handles it fine and the tiller is wide enough to cover the tire tracks. If your looking for speed I'd go with a disk. But you can't beat the bead a tiller makes. Fleet has one on clearance now, same model I have. Now's the time to buy. Get yourself a fleet card and save another 10%. I bought my tiller & box blade once the card came due it was paid in full and thrown away. The next sale the wife got a card and we purchased lawn mower & rotary kutter this way. www.fleetfarm.com/detail/king-kutter-6-ft-gold-gear-driven-tiller/0000000010027?Ntt=kutter
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Post by Coda1 on Dec 2, 2018 17:39:02 GMT -6
Tractor data lists your lowest speed at 2.1 MPH. Might be a bit fast for a tiller. I've never tired it that fast. I break ground in my lowest gear at .5 MPH and 2nd gear at 1 MPH for previous tilled soil. I have the 5' King Kutter tiller powered by a 24 HP tractor. I love the job it does but can't imagine doing 14 acres with it.
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 2, 2018 18:05:33 GMT -6
Tractor data lists your lowest speed at 2.1 MPH. Might be a bit fast for a tiller. I've never tired it that fast. I break ground in my lowest gear at .5 MPH and 2nd gear at 1 MPH for previous tilled soil. I have the 5' King Kutter tiller powered by a 24 HP tractor. I love the job it does but can't imagine doing 14 acres with it. Depends on soil, I have real sandy soil and I can till at 2.3 MPH on broken ground. 35 HP Tractor.
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Post by biglakebass on Dec 2, 2018 20:18:30 GMT -6
My experience is 1.5 to 2 mph max.
14 acres will be a long time to get done. What do you plan to plant Wade?
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Post by wklman on Dec 2, 2018 20:26:12 GMT -6
My experience is 1.5 to 2 mph max. 14 acres will be a long time to get done. What do you plan to plant Wade? Corn, beans, repeat.
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Post by kl9 on Dec 2, 2018 20:49:22 GMT -6
I planted about 15 acres of brassicas this year and I can say with absolute certainty I would never do it with a tiller.
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Post by wintomatic on Dec 4, 2018 4:22:20 GMT -6
For clover/ brassicas its tiller all the way for me, but I have no rocks on my tillable ground. I got a registered letter from the NRCS telling me that 0.5 acres of my tillable acreage is considered highly erodible land based on soil testing that was done probably 50 years ago. I called them asking about it...They said I will have to stop in and come up with a conservation plan for the 1/2 acre. Basically it means no plowing anymore. I said “that’s fine, I will just rototill it or no-till based on if I get into a program.”, since that is what he said I would have to do. Nope, I still have to go into the NRCS office and come up with a written plan for the 1/2 acre. I guess they have to do something to keep busy while they wait for the Farm Bill to get passed.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 4, 2018 20:24:50 GMT -6
On my sandy soils I plant beans (or corn) into a no-till bed. Mow it....then nuke it.....and plant into the chaff. Saves moisure and works slick. For new brassica and clover plots I run my tiller......and get over 2.5 mph ground speed. I always figure about one hour per acre....maybe conservative on the acres per hour.....but there is always some screwing around time.
It's hard to beat the King Kutter tillers if you want the most bang for your buck. They are bullet proof / proven performers at good prices. In my sandy ground....I run my tiller at 2 to 3 inches deep.....as it does little good to go deeper.
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 4, 2018 20:28:01 GMT -6
What kind of no-till drill or planter do you use for beans and corn?
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Post by Foggy on Dec 4, 2018 20:29:30 GMT -6
What kind of no-till drill or planter do you use for beans and corn? Me?.....I just use a JD 71 planter. Works great. I dont plant corn....just beans.
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