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Post by jbird on Jan 17, 2019 12:14:14 GMT -6
Seasoned firewood around here goes for $50 to $75 a "rick" That is 4' high x 8' long and cut at whatever length (typically 18 to 24"). That can also be a mixture of various wood types as well. When I sold it I was getting $50 a rick unseasoned and couldn't keep it around! Not sure what prices would look like in MN.
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Post by Foggy on Jan 17, 2019 20:34:18 GMT -6
Seasoned firewood around here goes for $50 to $75 a "rick" That is 4' high x 8' long and cut at whatever length (typically 18 to 24"). That can also be a mixture of various wood types as well. When I sold it I was getting $50 a rick unseasoned and couldn't keep it around! Not sure what prices would look like in MN. prices in MN are similar for hardwood ricks. Ricks can also be called "fireplace cords".....or "face cords". Basically they are 1/2 cords.
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 17, 2019 20:51:12 GMT -6
My meeting with the forester went as expected. He said I have enough black oak for a harvest, but not enough to make s lot of money or bring in a ton of bids. He thought id make $5k, but they are dying anyway with oak wilt so whether I cut them or not they will die. The crappy part is that he thought most loggers wouldn't log mine in the winter since it is not big enough. I'm not sure if want to potentially mess up a deer season with a summer logging kperation, but i don't know yet. The yard area would be my food plot, so that would hurt my hunting too potentially since my food plot options couldn't include soybeans.. Next year will be my daughters first year hunting, so I'd like to make it as good as possible.
I should get a formal proposal next week, but right now I'm in the fence.
It was funny though when we walked my land and the forester said 'Jesus Christ, you have a lot of tree stands'. I told him i like options for every wind direction.
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Post by jbird on Jan 18, 2019 12:14:36 GMT -6
Seasoned firewood around here goes for $50 to $75 a "rick" That is 4' high x 8' long and cut at whatever length (typically 18 to 24"). That can also be a mixture of various wood types as well. When I sold it I was getting $50 a rick unseasoned and couldn't keep it around! Not sure what prices would look like in MN. prices in MN are similar for hardwood ricks. Ricks can also be called "fireplace cords".....or "face cords". Basically they are 1/2 cords. Yep...the term "cord" tends to be tossed around at times without some really knowing what a "cord" is. Technically its a stacked pile 4 feet tall, 8 feet long and 4 feet wide. And thus sometimes you have to ask a few questions to ensure you understand what your actually getting/paying for....and why I wanted to be clear on the prices around here.
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Post by jbird on Jan 18, 2019 12:18:13 GMT -6
My meeting with the forester went as expected. He said I have enough black oak for a harvest, but not enough to make s lot of money or bring in a ton of bids. He thought id make $5k, but they are dying anyway with oak wilt so whether I cut them or not they will die. The crappy part is that he thought most loggers wouldn't log mine in the winter since it is not big enough. I'm not sure if want to potentially mess up a deer season with a summer logging kperation, but i don't know yet. The yard area would be my food plot, so that would hurt my hunting too potentially since my food plot options couldn't include soybeans.. Next year will be my daughters first year hunting, so I'd like to make it as good as possible. I should get a formal proposal next week, but right now I'm in the fence. It was funny though when we walked my land and the forester said 'Jesus Christ, you have a lot of tree stands'. I told him i like options for every wind direction. Mine was a summer cut... it might affect mature bucks actually living on your place, but the deer will still be there. You may have to lower your sights a little bit and take some does or smaller bucks or wait for the rut for the bigger bucks, but the logging won't keep the resident deer away for long. I often saw fresh tracks DAILY during the logging operation itself. Deer are plenty curious enough... Don't let a summer cut keep you from doing what you feel needs done. Only issue is if you have a high water table or water issues...then you need the ground to freeze.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 18, 2019 12:23:39 GMT -6
My meeting with the forester went as expected. He said I have enough black oak for a harvest, but not enough to make s lot of money or bring in a ton of bids. He thought id make $5k, but they are dying anyway with oak wilt so whether I cut them or not they will die. The crappy part is that he thought most loggers wouldn't log mine in the winter since it is not big enough. I'm not sure if want to potentially mess up a deer season with a summer logging kperation, but i don't know yet. The yard area would be my food plot, so that would hurt my hunting too potentially since my food plot options couldn't include soybeans.. Next year will be my daughters first year hunting, so I'd like to make it as good as possible. I should get a formal proposal next week, but right now I'm in the fence. It was funny though when we walked my land and the forester said 'Jesus Christ, you have a lot of tree stands'. I told him i like options for every wind direction. Mine was a summer cut... it might affect mature bucks actually living on your place, but the deer will still be there. You may have to lower your sights a little bit and take some does or smaller bucks or wait for the rut for the bigger bucks, but the logging won't keep the resident deer away for long. I often saw fresh tracks DAILY during the logging operation itself. Deer are plenty curious enough... Don't let a summer cut keep you from doing what you feel needs done. Only issue is if you have a high water table or water issues...then you need the ground to freeze. When I was up in December, I was walking my wet spots. I had ice formed where the water line was when it got cold. When I went and stepped through it, the water was about 8" below the ice already. I think that dry spell this year really helped my low spots get caught up drying out. Worked great for me, except for when you're trying to get broadcasted seed to go.
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 18, 2019 13:37:14 GMT -6
Ben,
Think long term. If they can get in there cut, and get out then I’d do it. I’m reading a lot of guys are having problems getting loggers to do cuts. Ask Brad.
Plant winter rye and brassicas for your late hunting draw. Your daughter will enjoy the hunt with you either way.
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Post by badbrad on Jan 18, 2019 15:00:38 GMT -6
Ben, Think long term. If they can get in there cut, and get out then I’d do it. I’m reading a lot of guys are having problems getting loggers to do cuts. Ask Brad. Plant winter rye and brassicas for your late hunting draw. Your daughter will enjoy the hunt with you either way. Yeah having major trouble getting anyone to come and do it. And I don't think you are giving up a hunting season anyway. Shit I sat while the logging machines were working and saw deer.
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Post by badbrad on Jan 18, 2019 15:01:26 GMT -6
Does anyone know the approx value of a cord of aspen or oak in MN? I read it somewhere, but lost that page. Pulp wood by us is about $25 per cord.
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Post by snowracerh on Jan 18, 2019 20:10:48 GMT -6
Seasoned firewood around here goes for $50 to $75 a "rick" That is 4' high x 8' long and cut at whatever length (typically 18 to 24"). That can also be a mixture of various wood types as well. When I sold it I was getting $50 a rick unseasoned and couldn't keep it around! Not sure what prices would look like in MN. prices in MN are similar for hardwood ricks. Ricks can also be called "fireplace cords".....or "face cords". Basically they are 1/2 cords. Seems like everybody, their cousin, brother and son in MN is selling firewood. Seems like a tough way to make money.
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Post by snowracerh on Jan 18, 2019 20:13:19 GMT -6
My meeting with the forester went as expected. He said I have enough black oak for a harvest, but not enough to make s lot of money or bring in a ton of bids. He thought id make $5k, but they are dying anyway with oak wilt so whether I cut them or not they will die. The crappy part is that he thought most loggers wouldn't log mine in the winter since it is not big enough. I'm not sure if want to potentially mess up a deer season with a summer logging kperation, but i don't know yet. The yard area would be my food plot, so that would hurt my hunting too potentially since my food plot options couldn't include soybeans.. Next year will be my daughters first year hunting, so I'd like to make it as good as possible. I should get a formal proposal next week, but right now I'm in the fence. It was funny though when we walked my land and the forester said 'Jesus Christ, you have a lot of tree stands'. I told him i like options for every wind direction. I had mine cut early june and there was enough regrowth 3-4' that the deer hunting wasnt affected much during early season. After a few freezes however, alot of the weedy regrowth was flat on the ground and deer disappeared (after about the 1st week in Nov)
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 18, 2019 20:14:45 GMT -6
In SE mn at kwik trip they sell plastic wrapped packs with 5 pieces of firewood for $5. I'm pretty sure I have one million dollars worth of timber on my land at those prices.
By my land in Wisconsin everybody and their brother sells firewood at the end of their driveway for much, much cheaper.
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Post by Tooln on Jan 19, 2019 2:45:49 GMT -6
Most of the time logging won't affect deer. When I cut mine the saws were like dinner bells. Many times we stopped for the day or lunch and bullshit around the skidder. Deer came walking out within minutes of the saws stopping.
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Post by benmnwi on Jan 19, 2019 8:02:18 GMT -6
I probably should have clarified that I'm not too concerned with the summer logging itself, but rather the log landing site. The ideal landing location would be my food plot, which is the best draw around during the season. But the more I think about it maybe I could just take an acre out of production on my main field I rent out instead. Then I could keep my food plot and also log as planned if summer logging is my only option.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 19, 2019 10:36:23 GMT -6
I probably should have clarified that I'm not too concerned with the summer logging itself, but rather the log landing site. The ideal landing location would be my food plot, which is the best draw around during the season. But the more I think about it maybe I could just take an acre out of production on my main field I rent out instead. Then I could keep my food plot and also log as planned if summer logging is my only option. Would you lose more than a year's rent on that acre though? Compaction may impact that for a number of years.
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